EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

A simple random number broke ties that we did not have a rule to call.

We're most certainly not going to revamp the entire ranking rules once the tournament is underway.

I see.



That, I can understand. It would be strange indeed to suddenly change the rule-set. Technically, it could still be applied before the second qualifying round, but I too would favor the current system, how debatable and non-logical it may be.

But please Veritas. What I drew up here isn't rocket-science. Almost all tournaments are drawn up this way. Look at the recent playoffs in the United States and Canada for their Ice Hockey and Basketball leagues. Or more recent: the Euro Cup Soccer. It all comes down to how well you performed in the game and how many goals you scored more than other teams.

So I really hope that for next year, you'd create a set-up like the one I mentioned to really have a clear and logical system in which everyone knows how good or bad the situation is for the participants.

Don't take this feedback as a message that I don't like the tournament though. I love watching the games between these teams. I doubt I'll ever participate given the fact that I'm a high-sec courier and my ship can't even equip a weapon. But it's fun to see others going against each other. May the best team win!

Something to keep in mind for the next tournament.

Totally redundant, here are the teams with 62.5 points according to time, give or take a second..

1. Suddenly Spaceships 2m28s
2. Red vs Blue 2m48s
3. The Gorgan Empire 4m50s
4. Northern Coalition. 4m53s
5. Darkside 5m29s
6. Ev0ke 5m32s
7. Team Liquid 5m54s
8. G0dfathers 5m56s
9. Goonswarm Federation 6m10s
10. Verge of Collapse 6m14s
11. Dead terrorists 9m42s
12. R0nin 9m52s

After that there's:
Pandemic Legion 4m28s
Against All Authorities 5m34s

Initial setups are mostly randomly drawn, you have no basis to use as criteria when selecting teams to fight each other.

Not to be the devil's advocate, but there are cases just after this first weekend in which several teams are tied. I would have preferred the time as a determining factor, but again, this was the set of rules created before this year's tournament and the luck of the draw is, although not perfect, acceptable and fair as a used method to finalize the ranks.

There is a fairly clear difference between being incapable to develop a clear seeding system that fits within the timetable of a tournament (in most tournaments there is an understood element of chance, it is the nature of the beast with no initial group stages) and quite literally rolling the dice between ties in a point system to see who comes out on top.

At the current point in the tournament, using a roll-of-the-die method to determine if Ronin fights Darkside or any of the other 11 teams they are tied wtih makes little difference....

However, when it comes time to Move up or not to the group stages, using a rolling the die method that kicks a team out of the tourney when they are tied with another team moving forward would be fairly unacceptable IMO. I request a tie-breaker qualifier match between tied opponents if this specific case happens!!!!!

Its sort of strange that a team's history factors in at all. Just because a team was strong last year, doesnt mean it is strong this year. Additionally, in a game like eve, its entirely possible that despite having the same alliance name, a team has entirely different people running the team from one year to the next.

So when you say history it does not mean win/lose, you also account for points scored conceded? Because if its just win lose I want to hear your selection process for teams that win one and lose one.

But good sir, you do know that a million to one chance happens 9 times out of 10.

Just seed everyone into 2 brackets before the tournament starts. End of story. Increases wagering and fun for those who like to smack for the weeks leading up to the finals. This re-seeding after every round is bogus.