Ships & Modules

ROFL CUTE. Thought that would elicit a response STOP. Also, history of what? Being right 98% of the time. Please STOP. You're terrible STOP.

Props for trying to save your friend.


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= ) You are infact a better man.

Personally, I don't care too much about the module. However, when it comes to frigates and destroyers I do believe the module is a bit off. On battlecruiser and battleships it's another matter.

I'll definitely be abusing the module alot more.


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Funny, because I would gladly trade that for tanking 4x more.



But my armor tank takes up vital lowslots.



Why doesn't my armor regenerate by itself?



Tech 2, 25% all with max skills. Invuln, 35%. Cry me a river.



Seems like it's had a huge potential of fail, TBH.

Small/medium/large ancillary shield boosters aren't overpowered when used in tandem. With their shorter duration they "hiccup" much more often and for longer than the XL ones do.

What's the beef with offgrid boosting? It's status quo now.

Oh sure, it's annoying when they have it and you don't. Consider though, that if it was removed....

The blob will still have their boosts, because they can afford to have one guy reship. That solo guy taking down gangs will lose that ability. Nerfing active tanks is a direct attack on solo/extremely-small-gang pvp.

The whole idea behind the mods is that they're supposed to dominate in small gang pvp while being virtually useless in larger gangs, so CCP saying that they don't want more than one fit in fights where either side is only ever going to have a handful of people isn't really proof of anything, much less that they will be nerfing ASBs any time soon.

Basically they limited them for the same reason they limited logis: It would make the fights boring to watch, with neither side losing any ships for the first 5 minutes of every fight.

1.ok lose 20% of your armor HP
2. set all resist to a static with a 0% and not diff per race
3. increase cap use of armor reppers
4.low slot Ewar mods
5.shields get an adaptive plate
6.no slave set
7.all armour ships lose a mid slot or can't use prop mods

deal?
or we stay diffrent and still be friends :)




what you armor kids really need is a new set of plates that have a different draw back like cap re-gen amount or some thing so you can have your speeds back for a price.

that and make armor reppers repair over the duration of the activation so they are a little more forgiving, it took me like 3 months to figure out that you have to turn them on one your in low shields(forgive me Im caladri).

Welcome to the Caldari milltia. I hope you guys do well.

I'm not worried about smalls. Provided you're able to do enough damage they can be pressed hard. Which in the end means a bonused Incursus with dual armor repair is superior to a Dual small ASB merlin. There are other setups that are not widely know which I have no interest in helping others aware of @tm that I'm worried about. The large ASB or @tleast using 2 of them is not a big deal even on bonused ships. Again, provided you have the damage to push them. By that I mean; forcing the pilot to active both @ the same time. The outcome can be lulz.

I've used active tanked ships for a very long time and they didn't need a boost. Like I said. I'm not to sure with regard to this module. Making engagements last longer is not a good thing for small gang and solo pvpers. That gives pilots time for their "BLOB" to arrive. So anything helping tank is a direct nerf to small gang and solo pvp. While things that decrease the time it takes to destroy a target is of benifit. Small gang is gurrilla warfare. Removing soft targets kinda makes that difficult = /

In anycase. Not a big deal, but a interesting discussion.

Your perception of shield/armor balance is completely wrong, I can fly shield and armor ships, most of sub capital ships and will always choose shield fits because of small stuff you can't or seem not willing to realise.

There's an obvious problem with armor tanking, be it buffet or active tanking, you don't want or can't admit it it's not much of a problem when CCP it self recognised Armor tanking is in need of changes. Seems they're smarter than you, and without doubt, me.

Had I used the word "evidence" instead of proof would that have made you happy? Quit arguing semantics, the point remains unchanged. CCP doesn't like crazy amounts of tank in their ATs because then no one would die within the first 5 minutes of each fight, making them boring. The AT is also an area where things like multiple ASB ships are at their absolute best, and really can't be compared to tq in ANY way. The tactics are completely different, and certain rules need to be imposed to reflect this. It has nothing to do with tq balance. Period.

Except it doesn't. As was already pointed out: they have several rules/limitations that have nothing to do with how they perceive in game balance to be, the most notable being faction mods/pirate implants.

Damps were fit on damn near every ship with a spare mid for an absurdly long time. They needed a nerf. The nerf was too much (or at least needed an accompanying damp boat bonus buff), but it was still a needed nerf. Damps were basically what neuts are now, which I'll get to in a moment:


Now I feel the need to ask: what exactly do you think CCP was thinking when they came up with the idea behind ASBs? I may be wrong in saying this, but I'm pretty sure their whole reason for being was that CCP wanted to make active tanking viable, despite the absurd proliferation of neuts. Neuts get fit to damn near every ship with a spare high (and the list of ships to which this applies is very, very long) and tend to make active tanking damn near impossible, even in smaller gangs. CCP introduced ASBs specifically to COUNTER the smaller gang, neut heavy setups, allowing active tanking to be useful again. If you let neuts affect ASBs, you're literally negating the whole reason they were brought in in the first place.

It's nice to see CCP making a change to the game that lets active tanking become more or less on par with buffer tanking in small gang pvp, now if only they'd let armor in on the fun =\ (or at least go through with that change that gets rid of the speed penalty on active tanking rigs)

You can always use neuts to shut either guns or hardeners witch WILL have considerable effects on your target, he will be able to maintain reps as long has he still have cap boost charges but then it's another space dust.

The major and important stuff that makes this module so important it's the fact it aloud huge number of ships close to useless come to the field and actually be handy assets now, this is simply awesome.
I still believe the amount of rep is a little OP, specially when you fit more than one, but this will probably be balanced soon. It's too obvious this can't remain as.