EVE Alliance Tournament Discussion

i guess by that then you didnt actually buy an apple product, and as such your "suck" comment is just somthing you adopted and ran with the herd, or if you did buy one and discovered that they "suck" i question your "unjustified and expensive" comment.

not that i am defending apple's product line, but i generally comment based on experience rather than on hearsay.

Was fine y-day...

HELP

tbh i am wondering how you came to that conclusion,

you saying that you know it requires a huge investment ?
you know how much time is req beyond the amount they spent on the current own3d.tv partner
and your know for a fact that no one offers html5 based stream (not that gaming orientated has anything to do with it, as a stream is a stream)

all this is odd as there are a bunch of well placed vendors with the backend and access who do in fact offer HTML5/flash cross platform broadcast.

perhaps speak from experience rather than renta-quote as it makes you look stupid, unless that was your intention.

lack of flash compatibility is fail, cant deny that,

but tbh i'd have trouble using a paperweight as a phone/mail client iphone/ipad manage that just fine. you might judge it expensive but then perhaps as i'm the buyer maybe i can judge for myself whether its expensive or not.

I like my Apple-products (ever since my first one in mid-80's), and I'm absolutely in love with my iPhone. But that doesn't make me blind to the obvious:
* Not supporting flash is fail, nice job Apple.
* While the iPhone is a "phone", it is actually quite poor - for calling -in comparison to the older Ericsson and Sony Ericsson-phones with older tech. While the modern phone networks (3g/4g etc) wasn't even supported, or worked very well.
* Apple products has always been excessivly priced. The company is rich, there's no denying that, and obviously the development and production costs is not soaking up that money (unlike Ericsson, used to, when they were the biggest mobile unit seller early on).

That said, I never got the black and white, stating either it's great/flawless, or bad/useless. The truth is somewhere inbetween.

At the end of the day, look at things from CCP's perspective, rather than ours and our preferences:
* CCP doesn't have a massive customerbase. It's reasonable for a MMO, but for a global brand, no.
* This stream has had between 10-12k viewers (according to it's own figures) while I been watching yesterday and today. We already know that CCP cancelled their internal EVE TV from early years, they only give us this stream as we were raging over the lack of visuals from the qualifiers to begin with. This is a compromise, and it's still quiet few that watch it live.
* We know that in-house, CCP put very very limited resources on the AT, and reasonably so. There's just not enough money coming in from it, else CCP would have their own live TV-show with advertisement going. You really think they'd say no to money?

So in CCP's eyes, using own3d is a good compromise. They get the qualifiers out to players, ok so you can't use your iPad but you do play this game on a computer, right? At the same time they don't have to put alot of effort or money into this either.

I think that's about as much as we players can ask for, and I guess that's as far as CCP can stretch.

No, i got one for free

But you just need some brain to compare products and get to the conclusion that they suck