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C4-C3 Static with 2 Tengu Dual Box (HOW TO)

Author
Giorgos Rbs
Lead Head Inc
#1 - 2012-07-01 09:12:17 UTC
TLDR: This is a thread about 2 Tengu setups, for dual box, in a C4-C3static. Feel free to skip the text story and go straight to the Fits, but if you intend to make comments please bother to read.

We were running the C4 sites with an RR fleet setup, but then some ppl went perma afk, and my last remaining buddy was moving houses and would be away as well for a couple of months so... here i was, sitting all alone in our C4 with my dual box, drooling over all those gathering noms... with no way to harvest them Cry Or maybe there was a way? Idea

After some test attempts, i came up with an awkward setup to run the C4 anomalies which have HEAVY NEUTS. A Tengu and a Legion made it at first and were replaced by 2 x Tengu in the end, cause the Tengu missiles range and "easier" tanking make it superior for the C4 sleeper orbits.

A few information before you start thinking 'this is Overtank" or "this can be done another way". I LIKE OVERTANK. I enjoy standing STILL and tanking the poop out of the MAXIMUM sleeper dps without breaking a sweat. Also... the combat probe, which some ppl might find unnecessary, i feel i CAN'T run sleepers without spamming a combat probe, and so this setup is made for "mimimum" fight clicks (lazy) to let me focus on my Probe n Dscan. Furthermore, the fits are made so the subsystems can work BOTH in a C4 and a C3 by just altering the modules, so we don't have to keep 4 Tengus each in the hole. Keep that in mind before judging.

To the FITS:
C4 Neuting sites
Frontier Barracks
Integrated Terminus
Sleeper Information Sanctum

we have the MAIN DPS Tengu
C4 Solo Tank - 1465 Tank - 559 Dps

And the CAP SUPPORT Tengu with an Expanded probe launcher
C4 Support Xtra cap - 1457 Tank - 244 Dps

1. Both land in the site
2. SUPPORT sets approach + targets MAIN
3. SUPPORT turns Energy transfer ON
4. MAIN starts moving and shooting stuff

Sometimes (if i am not too lazy for the extra attention needed) I switch 1 Flux Coil of the Support fit for a BCU to add a little more dps, but during heavy sleeper Neut i gotta keep an eye on sleeper aggro and the Support's capacitor and turn on/off the Energy transfer if need be.
C4 Support + 1 BCU - 1457 Tank - 305 Dps


C4 sites without BS Neut
Frontier Command Post
RADAR Unsecured Frontier Trinary Hub
MAG Forgotten Frontier Evacuation Cente

Main Tengu is the same. I replace the extra cap modules of the Support Tengu for BCUs and a 5th HML. Both move independently.
C4 Support Full Dps - 1457 Tank - 462 Dps

I have yet to test this in the spooky Radar and Magneto sites
RAD Unsecured Frontier Digital Nexus
MAG Forgotten Frontier Conversion Module
with the super nasty quatro Safeguard wave. I intend to test on Sisi at some point- and i will update this thread accordingly - but the neut is SO heavy in there that i dare not to attempt on Tranquility

C3 MODE

Main Tengu
Solo C3 Mode - 664 Tank - 559 Dps
Solo C3 Mode Overtank - 759 Tank - 559 Dps

Support Tengu
Support C3 Mode T2 Tank - 592 Tank - 559 Dps
Support C3 Mode Overtank - 747 Tank - 559 Dps

Why risk our expensive SeBos in the dangerous C3, if we can go there with T2 tank? 5 Launchers 4 BCU on both Tengus so the dps is nice. And If you like full T2 fits for the C3 here are some options

Main Tengu
Solo C3 Mode T2 fit - 664 Tank - 525 Dps

Support Tengu
Support C3 Mode T2 Fit Overtank - 764 Tank - 497 Dps
Support C3 Mode T2 Fit - 592 Tank - 497 Dps


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And now the LEGION fits i was using for all occasions
Legion C4 Support - 1329 Tank -126 Dps (needs to orbit speedtank occasionally for tough spawns)
Legion C4 Solo Tank - 1163 Tank - 437 Dps (moves independently with AB so speedtanks easily)
Legion C3 - 709 Tank - 608 Dps

I bet this is doable with all Tengu + any other T3 combination, but i haven't made fits for Loki and Proteus so far. They should be similar to current Legion - Tengu tank fits with long range guns for the C4

All you loner dual-boxers out there... start running these C4 so our homes can have a better re-spawn rate. Thank you :)

-Gio
Giorgos Rbs
Lead Head Inc
#2 - 2012-07-01 09:14:05 UTC
Reserved
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-07-01 11:09:31 UTC
[Tengu, Tengu - c5]

True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers

done. all class 3 and 4 sites with 1 tengu
joes Bazooka
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-07-02 05:08:44 UTC
A great deal of effort you have put into providing this for others. I recommend this for sticky to limit people like me asking for fits for C3/4's.
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-07-03 10:46:29 UTC
joes Bazooka wrote:
A great deal of effort you have put into providing this for others. I recommend this for sticky to limit people like me asking for fits for C3/4's.


though i agree that the amount of effort gone into this can only be applauded, people could just try to figure things our for themselves. in my opinion it makes you a better pilot if you try and fail and try again until you figure out what works and what doesnt. we dont need guides on everything, especially not in wormhole space, which is supposed to be the great unknown
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#6 - 2012-07-03 16:04:01 UTC
Hathrul wrote:
[Tengu, Tengu - c5]

True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers

done. all class 3 and 4 sites with 1 tengu

Someone is going to take your post literally and try using only 1 tengu.
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-03 16:05:06 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
Hathrul wrote:
[Tengu, Tengu - c5]

True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier

Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers

done. all class 3 and 4 sites with 1 tengu

Someone is going to take your post literally and try using only 1 tengu.


as long as they post a video or cry really hard in public channels i dont see the problem =)