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Two serious questions for the "Highsec Carebear"
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Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#421 - 2012-07-02 13:06:07 UTC
This has been really amusing Big smile

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#422 - 2012-07-02 13:09:51 UTC
To answer the OP, it doesn't matter where you play, highsec, lowsec, nullsec, or WHs.

If you know how to make ISK, you'll make it wherever you are.

I can make more ISK playing the market while sitting in a station in highsec than I can ratting in null, or running anoms in WHs.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#423 - 2012-07-02 13:10:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
This has been really amusing Big smile
I must admit. It's not often you see someone who manages to be so consistently wrong about every last thing he says for such a long time and still come up with even more stuff to be just as completely wrong about…

…not sure I'd call it amusing, though. It's rather disheartening.

Then again, the standard troll rule applies: for every actual troll, there are ten people who genuinely believe the nonsense the troll is spouting, and I think we've managed to cover the vast majority of misconceptions by now.
Pipa Porto
#424 - 2012-07-02 13:12:37 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1567494#post1567494


Since you have the annoying habit of quoting out of context, let me rebuild the Quote Pile.

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

1822 dps / Talos
2 * 1822 = 3644 dps
Concord spawn time according to your suspicious research is 20 seconds in 0.5.
3644 * 20 = 72 880
Do you really think that's not enough?


Tippia wrote:
Fair enough, I missed the 0.5 / 20s. On the other hand, that means we're talking about another 40k EHP, so no, it won't be enough.
Hell, just a single Basilisk will push the EHP barrier to 93k in 0.5 (only 2.3k DPS required…).
You see, DPS can always be countered — the only thing that assures destruction is alpha, and alpha costs…


Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Show me 110k EHP Hulk tank.


Pipa Porto wrote:

Show me the Talos that can do 110k damage before a shield rep cycles.


So. We have you claiming that a Hulk needs 110k EHP to survive a 2 Talos Gank, when Tippia had just explained to you how Logistics work (for the umpteenth time).

For that to be true, those Taloses must be able to put out 110k damage before the first RR cycles. So, fine. You promised (by implication) a Talos that can deliver 55k damage before the first Rep Cycle lands, not 110k damage.

You willing to provide that now?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#425 - 2012-07-02 13:13:59 UTC
*gets the popcorn and chairs ready*


"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#426 - 2012-07-02 13:14:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Tippia wrote:
Any other lies you want to 'fess up to? Such as the fabled cruisers that you never have been (and never will be) able to produce?


Link. If you claim that I said "most T1 cruisers have 80k EHP" you post a link to back up your claim.

Pipa Porto wrote:
So. We have you claiming that a Hulk needs 110k EHP to survive a 2 Talos Gank


No. 80k would be enough but it needs overheated Estamel's so it's impractical. There's no way Hulk without logi support survives that gank.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#427 - 2012-07-02 13:16:38 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Link. If you claim that I said "most T1 cruisers have 80k EHP" you post a link to back up your claim.
You already know you did, liar.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#428 - 2012-07-02 13:18:05 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Link. If you claim that I said "most T1 cruisers have 80k EHP" you post a link to back up your claim.
You already know you did, liar.


I can't find the "T1" part anywhere... Roll
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#429 - 2012-07-02 13:20:12 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
I can't find the "T1" part anywhere... Roll
It's only on the same page, liar.
Pipa Porto
#430 - 2012-07-02 13:21:49 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Any other lies you want to 'fess up to? Such as the fabled cruisers that you never have been (and never will be) able to produce?


Link. If you claim that I said "most T1 cruisers have 80k EHP" you post a link to back up your claim.



Jorma Morkkis wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Coveter gets the same tank as most cruisers.


I would like to see this 80k+ EHP Covetor.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1555694#post1555694

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#431 - 2012-07-02 13:22:10 UTC
Tippia wrote:
It's only on the same page, liar.


And that's Ruby saying something about T1 cruisers... Roll
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#432 - 2012-07-02 13:24:37 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
And that's Ruby saying something about T1 cruisers... Roll
…and quoting parts of a conversation between that post and the previous one, liar. You immediately understood the meaning of the word then, liar, as shown by all your answers, so why are you lying about not understanding it now?

Or should we add “being able to read“ to your list-o'many-lies?
Pipa Porto
#433 - 2012-07-02 13:27:57 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
And that's Ruby saying something about T1 cruisers... Roll
…and quoting parts of a conversation between that post and the previous one, liar. You immediately understood the meaning of the word then, liar, as shown by all your answers, so why are you lying about not understanding it now?

Or should we add “being able to read“ to your list-o'many-lies?


I think the major lie is "not having a recent traumatic head injury"

Seriously, Morkkis, I'm worried. Go to the Doctor already. Amnesia is a serious medical issue.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#434 - 2012-07-02 13:28:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
And that's Ruby saying something about T1 cruisers... Roll
…and quoting parts of a conversation between that post and the previous one, liar. You immediately understood the meaning of the word then, liar, as shown by all your answers, so why are you lying about not understanding it now?

Or should we add “being able to read“ to your list-o'many-lies?


Ok, so you see me posting something about "T1 cruisers" when I did only have word "cruiser" mentioned in my posts. I never posted specifically about "T1 cruisers"... Roll

Pipa Porto wrote:
Amnesia is a serious medical issue.


Ever heard of timezones?
Pipa Porto
#435 - 2012-07-02 13:30:21 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
And that's Ruby saying something about T1 cruisers... Roll
…and quoting parts of a conversation between that post and the previous one, liar. You immediately understood the meaning of the word then, liar, as shown by all your answers, so why are you lying about not understanding it now?

Or should we add “being able to read“ to your list-o'many-lies?


Ok, so you see me posting something about "T1 cruisers" when I did only have word "cruiser" mentioned in my posts. I never posted specifically about "T1 cruisers"... Roll


And yet you showed understanding of the common meaning of "Cruiser" when you posted the first 4 fits.

When I go on a Cruiser roam, I don't expect to see T3s, HICs and HACs. I expect to see Cruisers.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Pipa Porto
#436 - 2012-07-02 13:31:26 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Pipa Porto wrote:
Amnesia is a serious medical issue.


Ever heard of timezones?


The ability to Remember conversations you have had isn't affected by timezeones, last I checked.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#437 - 2012-07-02 13:32:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Ok, so you see me posting something about "T1 cruisers" when I did only have word "cruiser" mentioned in my posts. I never posted specifically about "T1 cruisers"... Roll
…aside from only ever specifically posting T1 cruisers in response, you liar, and being explicitly told what it was we were expecting (viz. T1 cruisers). So no, you'd have to be lying if you say you thought it ever was anything else we were after.

…well, that, or just downright unintelligent. Take your pick.

Pipa Porto wrote:
The ability to Remember conversations you have had isn't affected by timezeones, last I checked.
You know, I think you might be right about that head trauma. Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh about his lying since it might not be premeditated after all, but rather the unfortunate effect of intercranial swelling and broken synapses.
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#438 - 2012-07-02 13:32:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Jorma Morkkis
Pipa Porto wrote:
And yet you showed understanding of the common meaning of "Cruiser" when you posted the first 4 fits.


You asked for those...Roll

What makes you think that T2/T3 cruisers aren't cruisers?
Pipa Porto
#439 - 2012-07-02 13:35:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
And yet you showed understanding of the common meaning of "Cruiser" when you posted the first 4 fits.


You asked for those...Roll

What makes you think that T2/T3 cruisers aren't cruisers?


Because they're Heavy Assault Ships, Heavy Interdictors, Force Recons, Combat Recons, and Strategic Cruisers instead.


And if you had a differing idea of what "Cruiser" meant, that would have been the time to bring it up.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#440 - 2012-07-02 13:36:36 UTC
Jorma Morkkis wrote:
What makes you think that T2/T3 cruisers aren't cruisers?
What made you immediately think of T1 cruisers when asked about fits? What made you think that, when we asked you to prove that the majority of the T1 cruisers could have 80k+ buffers, we meant T2 and T3 ships?