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Pipa Porto

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#361 - 2012-07-02 10:48:26 UTC

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Tippia wrote:

(We're going to overlook for a moment that, no, the Scimi — or more accurately, the Basilisk — does not die if you do that.)

Yeah, 467 dps at 240 km isn't enough. Try again.

Yep. 467 dps will not gank the 40k EHP a 4 rep, cap stable Scimi fields.

But we're not talking about a Scimi, we're taking about a Basilisk.

[Scimitar, Scimitar - 4 Large Transporters]

Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Damage Control II

Cap Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1
Warrior II x1

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Jorma Morkkis

State War Academy

Caldari State

Likes received: 455

#362 - 2012-07-02 10:50:19 UTC | Edited by: Jorma Morkkis

Tippia wrote:

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Yeah, 467 dps at 240 km isn't enough.

We know. Why are you telling us?
It's nice that you realised this on your own and intend to try again, but you don't need to come back and post every attempt.

You want to play that targeting range card again?

[Naga, Naga fit]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script

425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L
425mm Railgun II, Spike L

Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
[Empty Rig slot]

Zainou 'Gypsy' Long Range Targeting LT-805

Pipa Porto wrote:

Yep. 467 dps will not gank the 40k EHP a 4 rep, cap stable Scimi fields.

Who said you shoot Hulk with those Nagas? 'Cause I didn't.


Pipa Porto Likes received: 1,548	#363 - 2012-07-02 10:53:38 UTC \| Edited by: Pipa Porto Jorma Morkkis wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: Yep. 467 dps will not gank the 40k EHP a 4 rep, cap stable Scimi fields. Who said you shoot Hulk with those Nagas? 'Cause I didn't. Scimi. Sci-Mi. Short for Scimitar. Not Short for Hulk. Anyway, your count is still 4 Tier3 BCs, not the 2 you claimed. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone -RubyPorto

My Postman

Royal Amarr Institute

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 115

#364 - 2012-07-02 10:54:37 UTC

1) Losing my Tengu or Nightmare to a ganker(s) while in mission. Actually this is the reason why i don´t fit any +1b modules (officers or so) to any of my ships. Go figure what a T2 fitted Nightmare costs.

2) Paying the game with credit card. Don´t care to much about PLEX´s. I do not mission for max isk/hour, i mission when i feel i would like to do a mission. When i make 25m/hour, i´m a happy person, and i don´t care about those saying you must make 100m/hour while missioning (or doing incursions).

Hope this helps.

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

Likes received: 27,526

#365 - 2012-07-02 10:54:52 UTC

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

You want to play that targeting range card again?

Which card was that and when was it played before?

And no, I want to play the “not enough damage” card. 2× 467 DPS for 20s = 18.7k damage = not enough to even chip the paint.
What are you shooting at that range? Spike? Another 50/50 Kn/Th split that feeds right into the Basi's 86%/91% Th/Kn resists and which, with a bit of luck might get the ship below 80% shields…

Jorma Morkkis

State War Academy

Caldari State

Likes received: 455

#366 - 2012-07-02 10:57:30 UTC | Edited by: Jorma Morkkis

Tippia wrote:

And no, I want to play the “not enough damage” card. 2× 467 DPS for 20s = 18.7k damage = not enough to even chip the paint.
What are you shooting at that range? Spike? Another 50/50 Kn/Th split that feeds right into the Basi's 86%/91% Th/Kn resists and which, with a bit of luck might get the ship below 80% shields…

100k EHP Basi? Fit? Preferably cap stable.

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

Likes received: 27,526

#367 - 2012-07-02 11:00:10 UTC | Edited by: Tippia

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

100k EHP Basi? Fit?

No, just 78k vs. Kn/Th (but I think I got the percentages swapped)… but 70k of those are in the shields and it unavoidably has a bit of shield regen…

LSE II + 2× Invuln II + DC II + 2× CDFE I

Cap stability is not required — when something turns red, just slump over and have your forehead hit the F1-F6 keys. It has enough cap to feed the reps until CONCORD arrives.

Jorma Morkkis

State War Academy

Caldari State

Likes received: 455

#368 - 2012-07-02 11:07:06 UTC

Tippia wrote:

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

100k EHP Basi? Fit?

Only needs 6% PG implant...


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#369 - 2012-07-02 11:10:13 UTC Jorma Morkkis wrote: Only needs 6% PG implant... Oh my. If only it had lowslots.


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#370 - 2012-07-02 11:12:12 UTC Tippia wrote: Jorma Morkkis wrote: Only needs 6% PG implant... Oh my. If only it had lowslots. That's with one T2 Reactor Control Unit...


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#371 - 2012-07-02 11:16:01 UTC Jorma Morkkis wrote: That's with one T2 Reactor Control Unit... You fitted it with T2 transporters, didn't you…?

Jorma Morkkis

State War Academy

Caldari State

Likes received: 455

#372 - 2012-07-02 11:19:51 UTC

Tippia wrote:

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

That's with one T2 Reactor Control Unit...

You fitted it with T2 transporters, didn't you…? Lol

[Basilisk, Basi]

Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit II

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
[Empty Med slot]

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x5

Inherent Implants 'Squire' Engineering EG-606

Pipa Porto

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#373 - 2012-07-02 11:21:59 UTC

To stop this moving the golaposts business.

Jorma, you said that there was no way to tank a Hulk to survive a 2 ship gank. We have shown you how to do exactly that.

You've now added more ships to try to counter us. If you'd like to do that, you must first admit that you can, in fact, tank a Hulk to survive a reasonable 2 ship gank.

You also happen to owe us a 2km/s cloaked ship and 6 more 80k EHP cruisers.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Pipa Porto

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#374 - 2012-07-02 11:22:34 UTC | Edited by: Pipa Porto

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Tippia wrote:

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

That's with one T2 Reactor Control Unit...

You fitted it with T2 transporters, didn't you…? Lol

Basi's don't fit MWDs.

53k EHP Omni, 75k vs Void, 40k vs Fusion, 43k vs Quake
[Basilisk, Miner Saver]

Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II

EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Afterburner II

Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#375 - 2012-07-02 11:23:51 UTC Jorma Morkkis wrote: 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Yeah… no. That's even worse than T2 transports.


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#376 - 2012-07-02 11:25:46 UTC Pipa Porto wrote: Basi's don't fit MWDs. Your fit doesn't have 80k EHP against Spike though...

Tippia

Sunshine and Lollipops

Likes received: 27,526

#377 - 2012-07-02 11:27:13 UTC | Edited by: Tippia

Jorma Morkkis wrote:

Your fit doesn't have 80k EHP against Spike though...

It still has more than enough. In fact, an unfitted Basilisk has nearly enough tank to survive your Nagas.

Just for fun, here's a Basilisk fit purpose-made to survive your self-defeating “gank the logi first” squad:

[Basilisk, Onoz Nagas]

[Empty Low slot]
[Empty Low slot]

Kinetic Deflection Field I
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

[Empty Rig slot]
[Empty Rig slot]


Pipa Porto Likes received: 1,548	#378 - 2012-07-02 11:27:23 UTC \| Edited by: Pipa Porto Jorma Morkkis wrote: Pipa Porto wrote: Basi's don't fit MWDs. Your fit doesn't have 80k EHP against Spike though... 75k. An what gank do you propose will be doing 75k damage with Spike? 75k/(20s*500dps)=8 Nagas. You're now at 10 ships to perform your "Two Ship Gank" EvE: Everyone vs Everyone -RubyPorto


Jorma Morkkis State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 455	#379 - 2012-07-02 11:29:47 UTC Pipa Porto wrote: 75k. An what gank do you propose will be doing 75k damage with Spike? Not even close with those rigs.


Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops Likes received: 27,526	#380 - 2012-07-02 11:32:09 UTC \| Edited by: Tippia Jorma Morkkis wrote: Not even close with those rigs. Not only close, but even 68 EHP over… Thermodynamics is your friend.

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