Ships & Modules

hey guys,
was just wondering if there's much difference between amarr and gallente BS. Ive been flying caldari up to now and want a change. I want the ship mostly for PvE but I'll probably fly some PvP at some point as well. I am also thinking more long term, like faction ships and marauders. Thanks in advance :)

Amarr ships are far from boring!

But I am also biased.

From experience on the Amarrian battleship platforms for PVE, I can say they are indeed fun to fly, but very skill-dependent. Poor skills for your capacitor will nuke your ability to function (however to note the brighter side, Amarr ships have nice capacitors to begin with). Fitting can be tight if you're not careful, but there are plenty of options out there to make things work.

You'll struggle a bit balancing your low slots, as Amarr ships armor tank (there are some you can attempt to shield up, but it's not their strongest suit). Finding the balance between tanking modules and your heat-sink/tracking enhancers is tedious at times, as is realizing you're limited to EM/Therm damage, but drones and wingmen make up for that (drones not as much at times).

Yes, the Amarrian boats are sluggish, but think of them as lumbering Juggernauts of doom in the right hands. Fitted and kitted right, you'll see some nice Alphas from Pulses, and some solid range on Beams, and once your skills and implants match the ship, you'll have a solid platform for running all kinds of fun.

For mid slots, you have some flexibility depending on your capacitor skills. You'll either have to look at CCC rigs with Cap Recharging mods in the mids to keep stable, or play around with boosters and other mods to enhance tracking/sensors/etc and work on pulsing your tank and monitoring laser consumption of the Cap to keep from running dry. Once I had my capacitor skills at 5's, I found little problem here, though. 4's should be more than workable as well.


For the Gallente? It's been...oh...four years since I last used one. So, I won't remark much on them, but I imagine at their core, the fitting and balancing of lows will be the harsh point as well.

Amarr:
Geddon for DPS. It has a proven history. Clear role. Nice ship
Apoc is a great Snipe platform. Decent for PVE I am told.
Abby is famous for tank/hitpoints. Just plain sexy.

Gallente:
Domi is very flexable. Ship of MANY uses.
Mega is a DPS monster. You do not one of them in your face for long.
Hype I am unfamilliar with.

Both Navy choices are nice

Pirate versions are Vindicator and Bhaalgorn. Top notch ships indeed for what they do.

There is not a 'Bad' choice imo.

One thing people have not stated - if you have Caldari BS to a decent level (at least 4) and you mission in Amarr space (ie predominantly Sansha/Blood rats) then imho you can't beat a nightmare. T2 Tachs with IN Heatsinks you get over 1000 DPS, add some tracking enhancers in the low and computer in the mid (if you have the space - 2 CN invuls gives all the tank you need with a booster) Cap charges and you're good to go.

good example - Pirate Scarlet with IN multi I one shot her - then she reappears in the next room (as if you don't kill her she warps on the first shot - so extra 5m bounty - have petittioned this as would appear to be a bug but not changed so )

You'll have good shield skills but getting T2 tachs and your support skills to 5 is a must - I initially used IN Tachs as cba to do the drag to T2 but have now and got about another 10% DPS.....

I have my main in Minnie space and am now training for a mach due to damage type as found missiles getting far too boring as I initially trained up Caldari and had a Golem. I now have a jump clone in Amarr space with damage implants for the NM whilst main activities sre in Minnie.

Over time you could train up your armour skills, but in PvP shield doctrine is predominant in my corp (mainly small to medium fleets) due to speed and gank ability. This route will move training more towards gunnery skills but you will find a whole range of ships you can use in PvP.

Not used 'basic' Amarr ships for PvE but the above posters have got some very good info - thought this one may get you into a great ship which also utilises your Caldari skills (BS) and shield training - use the caldari ship in the meantime whilst you train Amarr BS and guns

In pvp it's flown similarly to the megathron, usually, but it excels in small gang stuff where active tanking is viable and the extra mid slots are more useful. In pve it basically trades the tracking bonus and some drone bandwidth for another turret and more tank.

But well worth it. ;)


Very true about T2 guns for Amarr. They go from meh, to omfgwhathitme?!



Cant speak for Megathron, but the Abaddon is great, I never that I can remember had a moment in any L4 mission where I was even a little worried about dying. As already posted above however, the Abaddon is an absolute beast on cap for fittings, and therefore is very demanding on skill requirements in order to fly it comfortably.

They sorta are, aren't they? They are all big bricks that shoot laz0rs. You don't have the ugly duckling á la the Rohk of Caldar that breaks the mold.

Neither, I would run either a Domi or Geddon.

Both are more flexible, easily capable of tanking a level 4 and do better DPS.

Mega suffers because blaster range sucks, rails have a VERY hard time under 30k, granted you have a decent drone bay, but its annoying. Abbadon is a pain to get to where you can run the guns without capping out (you need control bursts IV and a couple other skills topped) AND its slow as dirt. Mega suffers much the same issue, its a faster hull, but rail DPS isn't that great compared to a pulse geddon or pulsepoc.

Pulsepocs are pretty friggin awesome, 90km scorch is nice.

I usually carebear in minmatar ships, being able to change ammo for the target type makes things so much faster.

Mega has an amazing dps even with meta 4 Guns while you're training your T2 ones, on top gets this IMPORTANT tracking bonus that actually increases significantly your dps, yep rails give you a better dps as much skills you get in everything related to, be it gunnery support skill that you WANT at lvl5 or BS skill it self.

Power grid is not a problem however will require excellent capacitor/fitting skills, CPU might be one at the begining, once you get all standard certificates for it (missile not mandatory) swap to Navy version to get a hell of a blast with his tank/dps, pimp it and you get a beast out of it.

You get less tank than Abby but actually with mega you'll learn with time what "tank with gank" means.

Unfortunately Hyperion is a joke with rails and overall worst than Mega with blasters. You WILL get the cold sweat at the sight of a Megathron in many occasions and this is not a legend. However for fleets none of 3 Gallente BS or navy version is actually very interesting, at least at current fleet doctrines.

The simple answer for pve:

Amarr ships are great in Amarr.

You can get away with using a Megathron or Dominix anywhere.

All of them will be mediocre without T2 equipment.