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Seeding super capitals on Singularity? - Yes!

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Russell4
Moonshine Industries
#21 - 2012-06-29 21:55:56 UTC
Seed them CCP.

The only people that are really gonna be against such actions will be the SiSi corps that just want to sit in a CA camping with their TQ supers. By seeding the supers you will allow others who may not be able to fly a super on TQ but are always attending the mass tests to feel the power of flying such massive bricks in space.

You could remove the faction and deadspace stuff from market seeds so that people who do fly these seeded supers will be restricted still in some way, it also makes it so people who own TQ supers on sisi (which are usually deadspace / faction / officer fit anyway) will still have their needed advantage. (Also makes for some pretty funny tech 2 fits IMO)

Like said above too, if people don't want to be titan / super carrier blobbed, the new system is always looking for new people...

/Russs
fab24
Tax Fraud The Return Corporation
#22 - 2012-06-29 22:06:25 UTC
I think you don't look at your mistakes dear CCP, remember the armageddon days on sisi? Remember the armargeddon day WITH supers seeded? Server is totally going to be messed up. No more subcaps, just bad DD-less titans and lvl 3 motherships. Yay.
Go to pvh? Tell me about the many fights that happen here.

More fun for us, less tests for other.

Jus' sayin'. Don't do that.

Take a second look at CJ's post. Ty.
J3ssica Biel
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-06-29 22:19:20 UTC
fab24 wrote:
I think you don't look at your mistakes dear CCP, remember the armageddon days on sisi? Remember the armargeddon day WITH supers seeded? Server is totally going to be messed up. No more subcaps, just bad DD-less titans and lvl 3 motherships. Yay.
Go to pvh? Tell me about the many fights that happen here.

More fun for us, less tests for other.

Jus' sayin'. Don't do that.

Take a second look at CJ's post. Ty.

Jesus christ,
That was so bad cause everyone had Level 5s, They didn't come on just to use titans and supers that day. How is that even relevant

It won't be as bad as that. As i said at the start alot of people will come on for it, Just like when the new T3s BCs were coming out there was 500 users all day for a while
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-06-29 22:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
What is the problem you're trying to solve by introducing them to the market? You say the upsides outweigh the downsides, so I'd be interested in knowing what the upsides you envision are, because they aren't obvious from my point of view? You'll certainly get more "testing" done on them, but was there an issue with the lack of testing on supercaps? People lost their supercaps at such frequency, that they ran out constantly and therefore huge bugs got on TQ?

Let me be clear. I'm not against this change, but I'm not seeing any real upsides outside the obvious increased testing and use, while the various downsides are somewhat obvious. As time goes by and characters are skilled to access these new features through training and free skillpoint distribution, majority of testing increasingly focusing on ships and modules, that form the clear minority of use cases on TQ. Attracting more people who just want to play around instead of doing proper testing and bug reporting, which will ruffle some feathers and will require increased babysitting from CCP staff to manage. Increasing low quality/trash feedback on such ships, since the people who will be flying them on SiSi have little to no actual experience in their use on TQ. Nothing earth shakingly bad, but what is the good that comes from this?

Again it might be more easier to give constructive critique or complements about the proposal, if we knew your reasons behind the change. It's a bit hard to do, when you're not laying out your argument in the open about why you are thinking about implementing the change in the first place.
Kein Echerie
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-06-29 22:49:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Kein Echerie
100% with this idea Seeded supers!.

1. New players can get a Chan's on using these things or players who never got to use them at all

2. CCP can seeded the supers at one of the regions like the drone region or others Eta.


and on the Note. COMODORE JOHN please Be quiet No one cares on what you say your corp is the only one who have supers in SIsi to play with and lose at the same time. or should I say a giant Corp who R's everything.

BTW "DDL" if this pass witch I hope. your NOT the only one who is going to have ton's of supers at their hands now just saying :)

Don't put everyone skills at lvl 5 that was the problem in the first place. "CCP"

"DDL is the Devil. if they it's seeded they will have No fun DD'ing some eles with out getting killed :P"
Leisen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-06-29 23:16:17 UTC
Dat Wyvern.

(I'm for it.)
JACKHARKNESS2
Cherry Defence Shipyards
The Initiative.
#27 - 2012-06-29 23:20:41 UTC
yes i agree ccp should bring super caps bk so people who cant make them can have a go of useing them
bassie12bf1
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2012-06-29 23:30:15 UTC
The subcaps only system is there for a reason, might aswell give the caps all the caps to play with.
Kein Echerie
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-06-29 23:37:21 UTC
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IWolfMasterI
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#30 - 2012-06-29 23:39:40 UTC
yeah i'd like to see supers seeded on sisi, even if it were a temporary thing. We have a non cap fighting system so its not like peeps could get fights of sub cap level.
J3ssica Biel
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-06-29 23:43:42 UTC
Results are fairly obvious, Seed them
Kein Echerie
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-06-29 23:47:03 UTC
yeah 100% for Seeding. well not "DDL"..... "haters"
Comodore John
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#33 - 2012-06-29 23:50:40 UTC
Wasn't planning on replying to this thread a second time to avoid cluttering it up, but the thread has barely been here for four hours, Haba won't decide for another 2-3 days.

Izuru Hishido
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2012-06-29 23:58:58 UTC
Haba, I hope you're prepared for the biggest catastrostorm since Dominion testing weekend.

Good luck, have fun, don't say that we the bittervets didn't warn you about the crap that's gonna go down.

Also, good luck finding anybody obeying the rules at all during this period. Then again, its not like I've seen a rule actually enforced in quite a while, so I'm not gonna waste my breath ranting.

Do whatever you want, but get ready for the firestorm on the forums about it the day after this goes live.
Kein Echerie
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-06-30 00:25:55 UTC
Izuru Hishido wrote:
Haba, I hope you're prepared for the biggest catastrostorm since Dominion testing weekend.

Good luck, have fun, don't say that we the bittervets didn't warn you about the crap that's gonna go down.

Also, good luck finding anybody obeying the rules at all during this period. Then again, its not like I've seen a rule actually enforced in quite a while, so I'm not gonna waste my breath ranting.

Do whatever you want, but get ready for the firestorm on the forums about it the day after this goes live.


DDL make's Their move... ._.
Socomar
Quantum Corp
#36 - 2012-06-30 00:28:05 UTC
YESSSSSS... for it big time! :)
iv been dieing to try them out.
Kein Echerie
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-06-30 00:28:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Kein Echerie
"Wasn't planning on replying to this thread a second time to avoid cluttering it up, but the thread has barely been here for four hours, Haba won't decide for another 2-3 days." "CJ "

then Don't say anything at all then if you want to avoid this..
Bizzaro0
State Of Mind
#38 - 2012-06-30 00:51:30 UTC
A big no. Seeding them would be a mistake. The vocal "yes" in this thread seem to want the change out of some misplaced need for revenge against whoever this DDL is.

The addition of the sub-cap only system was fantastic for people like me who hop on now and then to test sub-cap fittings but like Destination SkillQueue so poignantly asks; What are the benefits of introducing more super capitals onto singularity? The people who actually test super capital building and the irregular weapons used on said supers for bugs will always find a way to get some for themselves.
Bruce Vendetta
Final-Vendetta
#39 - 2012-06-30 00:57:40 UTC
No. Whether it is Tranquility or Singualrity the addition of more supercapitals always results in poor game-play and complaining.

However, Austneal does make a good point here:
Austneal wrote:
If it turns out to be a horrible mistake, they can always be taken off later.
Draconus Lofwyr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-06-30 01:19:16 UTC
i am mostly for it, seed them in every normally seeded station EXCEPT the one test system and keep it capital exempt (jammed and blocked) except for when the Dev's/Bughunters wish to have some testing done for specific reasons. This will allow Super testing while preventing the titanopocolypse that tends to happen in the testing system otherwise. Since the current sov system has made it a royal pain to try and build a super normally (wipe, have to replace TCU/iHUB, wait for upgrades, instal upgrades, install pos, and modes, them build the Super, if you happen to have all those roles and the ship skills to carry the massive module. its just a logistic PITA!!!!