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Goose99
#21 - 2011-09-21 21:48:17 UTC
Sugilite wrote:
Satav wrote:

The best BS for your money is the Domi of course
But what if I'm looking to buy a ship to enter into a doesn't look like crap contest?


How dare you insulting the worldly beauty of the space potatoX
Fabulous Virgil
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2011-09-21 22:00:16 UTC
any laser ship is going to have top DPS and is going to deliver it at high optimal, it's your best bet
Joss56
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-09-22 02:05:26 UTC
Sugilite wrote:
Satav wrote:

The best BS for your money is the Domi of course
But what if I'm looking to buy a ship to enter into a doesn't look like crap contest?



"In rust we trust" : Typhoon

Cheap
Solid
Versatile
Dmg selection
Snipe/brawler
Huge drone bay
More pg/cpu than you need to fill all mods
Strong bait
Agile
Fun for logis/neut BS

But:

Needs a lot of tank/guns/drones/missiles skils

If you look for something versatile and will always give your for your iskies this one is just awesome, plus looks a lot better than the slow brick Domiwhale

If you like awsome looks then look about Machariel (shield or armour versions, arty or autos versions) or,
Bhaalgorn: this one should be cheaper !! I'd like to buy some dozens ;o
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-09-22 02:36:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
typhoon is the swiss army knife of EVE.

it has like 2 blades, a saw, a battleaxe, a grappling hook, a first aid kit and a sandblaster.

all this in a small package powered by a jet engine.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#25 - 2011-09-22 03:04:28 UTC
Cleo Pandora wrote:
Forget circumstances, whats the best dps for isk ship. For example a t2 fitted CNR is pretty hard to beat. the mach is clearly a good ship, but not the one for the job. and the nightmare sounds like a very good pos basher, but not as good as the poon. The Vinni is the beast thanks alot.



Well - you never mentioned what you'd like to use it for -e.g. ganks/fleetwarfare/solo-work/station games/have your bot fly it?

Is tank important? Alpha? Just DPS? How much would you like to spend?
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
digitalwanderer
DW inc
#26 - 2011-09-22 03:27:54 UTC
Vargur T2 marauder with maxed skills, and yes it can outdamage a machariel( i used to own a machariel...P).
Izuru Hishido
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2011-09-22 03:35:37 UTC
ITT: EFT Warriors arguing over their spreadsheets.
digitalwanderer
DW inc
#28 - 2011-09-22 03:47:14 UTC
Izuru Hishido wrote:
ITT: EFT Warriors arguing over their spreadsheets.




Not using EFT at all but actual experience since i've owned:


Machariel.
bhaalgorn.
nightmare.
paladin.
navy mega.
fleet typhoon.
fleet tempest.
kronos.


Most of these are very good ships and i did splurge on good fittings for all of them, but the vargur edges them all out, in some cases by slim margins, but it's there just the same, but this is only the opinion of a pilot with 160 million sp, so take it for what it is...P
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#29 - 2011-09-22 04:10:56 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
Vargur.



Exactly what I meant - nobody would use that thing outside a pve situation because of its gimped sensor strength - if the OP had even given a slight hint in regards of the ships actual use, suggestions would be way more specific.

You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
digitalwanderer
DW inc
#30 - 2011-09-22 04:22:38 UTC
Large Collidable Object wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Vargur.



Exactly what I meant - nobody would use that thing outside a pve situation because of its gimped sensor strength - if the OP had even given a slight hint in regards of the ships actual use, suggestions would be way more specific.





Assuming the vargur is one getting jammed and that what we're talking about is either solo pvp or small scale fights with only a few ships in either side, i completely agree there and it can be an issue if the ship doing the jamming has the right type fitted in the first place.....Lot's of if's and but's to say the least.


It's kinda hard to find small scale fights where both sides are using equal numbers these days though....



In any case,i was talking about straight damage output and tanking ability primarily, along with speed that only a machariel can beat, and can still carry a good drone bay and autocannons that can hit to 70 kms quite easily, and do all damage types depending on what the target is too.....It is a pain to train all the skills needed to make it shine, but once they are, look out.
Chris Bailey
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2011-09-22 05:30:43 UTC
Izuru Hishido wrote:
ITT: EFT Warriors arguing over their spreadsheets.

Hi izuru
Barqs
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
#32 - 2011-09-22 16:59:09 UTC
My CNR with all estamels launchers does about 2400 DPS with implants. Im pretty sure nothing else sub capital can touch that.

Barqs-
Aamrr
#33 - 2011-09-22 17:02:59 UTC
I think you've confused "DPS" with "Volley." You might want to check that number again...
Barqs
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
#34 - 2011-09-22 17:22:44 UTC
No I dont think i was.... I have this ship its not fantasy like all these other fits :)

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ekot42&s=7

Barqs
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2011-09-22 20:49:14 UTC
Barqs wrote:
No I dont think i was.... I have this ship its not fantasy like all these other fits :)

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ekot42&s=7

Barqs


No, i think it´s an evil fit.

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.
Ejit
STD contractors
#36 - 2011-09-22 21:49:20 UTC
Barqs wrote:
My CNR with all estamels launchers does about 2400 DPS with implants. Im pretty sure nothing else sub capital can touch that.

Barqs-


What system did you say you were in again...Pirate
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2011-09-22 22:09:48 UTC
Barqs wrote:
My CNR with all estamels launchers does about 2400 DPS with implants. Im pretty sure nothing else sub capital can touch that.

Barqs-


I may not own it, but I am pretty sure that a vindi w/ 4 damage mods can beat that dps (Your image was 2477).

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/vindicatordpstest.jpg/
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#38 - 2011-09-22 22:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
digitalwanderer wrote:



Assuming the vargur is one getting jammed and that what we're talking about is either solo pvp or small scale fights with only a few ships in either side, i completely agree there and it can be an issue if the ship doing the jamming has the right type fitted in the first place.....Lot's of if's and but's to say the least.



Actually - a set of medium ECM drones (like everyone and his dog are fielding) will do the trick - that's why nobody flies them in PvP.

Quote:

In any case,i was talking about straight damage output and tanking ability primarily, along with speed that only a machariel can beat, and can still carry a good drone bay and autocannons that can hit to 70 kms quite easily, and do all damage types depending on what the target is too.....It is a pain to train all the skills needed to make it shine, but once they are, look out.



I could fly one at all V (except the turret spec skills and obviously not on this character), but even in the rare occasion I do PvE, I'd still prefer the mach, but to each his own...

Demon Azrakel wrote:
Barqs wrote:
My CNR with all estamels launchers does about 2400 DPS with implants. Im pretty sure nothing else sub capital can touch that.

Barqs-


I may not own it, but I am pretty sure that a vindi w/ 4 damage mods can beat that dps (Your image was 2477).

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/vindicatordpstest.jpg/



I once tried to EFT warrior the highest subcap paper-dps possible - ended up with a vindi and 2548 dps.
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Barqs
Peanut Factory
Good Sax
#39 - 2011-09-23 00:37:58 UTC
Ejit wrote:
Barqs wrote:
My CNR with all estamels launchers does about 2400 DPS with implants. Im pretty sure nothing else sub capital can touch that.

Barqs-


What system did you say you were in again...Pirate




Iv used it a few times in PVP its quiet fun melting anything you lock. If you want to say vindi is highest DPS, then we can talk state issue raven as it has 1 more launcher it cant be beat DPS wise :P


Barqs
Demon Azrakel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2011-09-23 01:45:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Demon Azrakel
Large Collidable Object wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:



Assuming the vargur is one getting jammed and that what we're talking about is either solo pvp or small scale fights with only a few ships in either side, i completely agree there and it can be an issue if the ship doing the jamming has the right type fitted in the first place.....Lot's of if's and but's to say the least.



Actually - a set of medium ECM drones (like everyone and his dog are fielding) will do the trick - that's why nobody flies them in PvP.

Quote:

In any case,i was talking about straight damage output and tanking ability primarily, along with speed that only a machariel can beat, and can still carry a good drone bay and autocannons that can hit to 70 kms quite easily, and do all damage types depending on what the target is too.....It is a pain to train all the skills needed to make it shine, but once they are, look out.



I could fly one at all V (except the turret spec skills and obviously not on this character), but even in the rare occasion I do PvE, I'd still prefer the mach, but to each his own...

Demon Azrakel wrote:
Barqs wrote:
My CNR with all estamels launchers does about 2400 DPS with implants. Im pretty sure nothing else sub capital can touch that.

Barqs-


I may not own it, but I am pretty sure that a vindi w/ 4 damage mods can beat that dps (Your image was 2477).

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/vindicatordpstest.jpg/




I once tried to EFT warrior the highest subcap paper-dps possible - ended up with a vindi and 2548 dps.


I wanted to limit it to only four damage mods like barqs fit for comparison.

Current high w/o going over calibration: 2676, 7x mag stabs + Hybrid Burst Aerator II (maybe you did it prior to 6% implants?)

I get 3264 on the state raven though

nerf caldari limited issue ships... mega should always have higher base dps than raven with torps...
Federate issue does a piddling 2354 dps, geif 10% damage per level kthnx :( Think of poor entity
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