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TwoStep call out on SDing

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Messoroz
AQUILA INC
#41 - 2012-07-01 22:29:41 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Messoroz wrote:
If you guys in Exhale didn't blob every jew you saw with a 80 man blue fleet, maybe they wouldn't self destruct. Why should they bother wait as suffer as they are bored to death by your blob?


This post makes absolutely no sense (and whats with the Jew comment? Racism isn't cool, man)... when there's huge blobs then taking them out before the timer is easy peasy.
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Jews aren't a race. They are part of a religion.
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2012-07-01 22:50:32 UTC
Messoroz wrote:


Jews aren't a race. They are part of a religion.


They happen to be both, numbnuts.
seany1212
M Y S T
#43 - 2012-07-02 07:35:00 UTC  |  Edited by: seany1212
Gnaw LF wrote:
Cybus Max wrote:
It should be same as logoffski if your aggressed you can't SD for 15 mins and you can't SD in a POS ( or you can't SD in bubbles???)



No, not it shouldn't. Self Destruct is there to prevent time griefing, where you get pointed, bubbled and re-aggressed to keep you there indefinitely. Thats the whole point of SD, if you get caught by assholes who are ok with idling for an hour or more while preventing you from playing the game. Everyone should have the ability to SD whenever the **** they want, except that a KM should be generated if the player was aggressed. CCP does not even have to make a lot of changes, just add Self Destruct as an involved party to the KM with the amount of damage that resulted from SDing. Simple.


Because CCP removed ejecting, amirite?

EDIT for clarification: I still maintain SD'ing should exist for capsules.
Cybus Max
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#44 - 2012-07-02 07:38:58 UTC
Messoroz wrote:
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
Messoroz wrote:
If you guys in Exhale didn't blob every jew you saw with a 80 man blue fleet, maybe they wouldn't self destruct. Why should they bother wait as suffer as they are bored to death by your blob?


This post makes absolutely no sense (and whats with the Jew comment? Racism isn't cool, man)... when there's huge blobs then taking them out before the timer is easy peasy.
)


Jews aren't a race. They are part of a religion.



First off your arguments don't excuse making comments like that go do your shitposting somewhere else.

Secondly as Gnaw said the simplest solution would just be to add self destruct as a aggressing party. problem solved.

Now we just need to whinge and ***** till CCP actually implements this :)
seany1212
M Y S T
#45 - 2012-07-02 07:46:56 UTC
The issue is obviously self destructing in POS's, of which it makes no logical sense, firstly how you can initiate self destruct in a secure environment and then how it doesnt take any form of damage destructing in the confined space. I think self destruct as a whole need to be looked at as from a role playing perspective i find it hard to see how ibis rookie ships take the same time to self destruct as titans.
Efraya
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#46 - 2012-07-02 08:28:14 UTC
TwoStep has been VERY quiet on this issue.

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joes Bazooka
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-07-02 08:35:25 UTC
Efraya wrote:
TwoStep has been VERY quiet on this issue.



I only hope he is quiet for being so BUSY writing up the damn CSM minutes.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#48 - 2012-07-02 12:41:18 UTC
twostep doesn't care about wh people
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-07-02 15:55:55 UTC
seany1212 wrote:
Gnaw LF wrote:
Cybus Max wrote:
It should be same as logoffski if your aggressed you can't SD for 15 mins and you can't SD in a POS ( or you can't SD in bubbles???)



No, not it shouldn't. Self Destruct is there to prevent time griefing, where you get pointed, bubbled and re-aggressed to keep you there indefinitely. Thats the whole point of SD, if you get caught by assholes who are ok with idling for an hour or more while preventing you from playing the game. Everyone should have the ability to SD whenever the **** they want, except that a KM should be generated if the player was aggressed. CCP does not even have to make a lot of changes, just add Self Destruct as an involved party to the KM with the amount of damage that resulted from SDing. Simple.


Because CCP removed ejecting, amirite?

EDIT for clarification: I still maintain SD'ing should exist for capsules.



Well, in case you got trapped without a probe or a way out, eject wont help you. Since your ship will just remain drifting in space, someone will scan it down sooner or later and generate a kill mail. So no, SDing a ship should still be there but like bubbles or POS should be displayed on killmail.
Propotkin
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#50 - 2012-07-03 08:39:54 UTC
I think that when somebody ejects from a self-distructing ship the self-distructing ships should stop - also maybe when self-distructing when inside a ship the pod should be lost as well

Any thoughts ??
Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#51 - 2012-07-03 14:03:04 UTC
Propotkin wrote:
I think that when somebody ejects from a self-distructing ship the self-distructing ships should stop


I'm quite sure it does. At least it did ~2 years ago. When I was bombed out of my first wormhole by Russians, I wanted to self-destruct some ships. To speed up the process, I initiated SD, then switched to another ship, initiated SD and then the next. Effect was, none of the ships blew up. Which was good, because then I reconsidered. We waited for reinforced to kick in and evacuated almost everything during the night :D

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SojournerRover
Explorer Corps
#52 - 2012-07-03 14:35:14 UTC
My 2cents,

If they self destruct while aggressed = Killmail
Keep the self destruct so someone doesn't just hold them there forever because they are a #####.

If you give CCP too much to think about like pos's and self destruct they will screw it up and it will never get done.
Keep it simple stupid!

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Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#53 - 2012-07-03 15:09:14 UTC
Gnaw LF wrote:
Messoroz wrote:


Jews aren't a race. They are part of a religion.


They happen to be both, numbnuts.


more nonsense coming from you again ?

Judaism is a religion, not a race, the jewish people do not share a common ancestry.
Gnaw LF
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-07-03 15:43:16 UTC
Ya Huei wrote:
Gnaw LF wrote:
Messoroz wrote:


Jews aren't a race. They are part of a religion.


They happen to be both, numbnuts.


more nonsense coming from you again ?

Judaism is a religion, not a race, the jewish people do not share a common ancestry.



Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group. You can argue that they don't share common ancestry because their diaspora has intermixed with other races, but then again so has every other ethnic group out there.
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
#55 - 2012-07-03 17:05:22 UTC
Hehe Big smile I agree with you on that, but I wasn't calling them a race to begin with.
Anazzar
Polaris Space Industries
#56 - 2012-07-03 23:05:25 UTC
I dont see the issue with SDing inside a POS, sounds like scorched earth, which is a valid tactic.

I guess SDs should generate some sort of record not just for KM whores but it can be frustrating putting all that work in to take down a super and having not only no loot to show for it but no record either.
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#57 - 2012-07-04 02:11:33 UTC
seany1212 wrote:


EDIT for clarification: I still maintain SD'ing should exist for capsules.



It does.

I use it all the time for hopping around the EVE cluster without having to resort to 20+ jumps if I have a ship or something way the hell out there.

1) Set Clone Location as close as possible to target ship/wormhole/racial space/etc

2) make sure clone is up to date

3) Undock, self-destruct
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
#58 - 2012-07-04 11:58:31 UTC
If you didnt care so much about a stupid killmail you would be happy but nah, all about the KMs.

Thats why you bring 150 people to fight 50 people, just to make sure you kill everyone of them.
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#59 - 2012-07-04 13:03:10 UTC
Gibbo3771 wrote:
If you didnt care so much about a stupid killmail you would be happy but nah, all about the KMs.

Thats why you bring 150 people to fight 50 people, just to make sure you kill everyone of them.


YEA!!!


..... Who are you talking about? Lol

No trolling please
Myz Toyou
Nekkid Inc.
#60 - 2012-07-05 12:14:01 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Gibbo3771 wrote:
If you didnt care so much about a stupid killmail you would be happy but nah, all about the KMs.

Thats why you bring 150 people to fight 50 people, just to make sure you kill everyone of them.


YEA!!!


..... Who are you talking about? Lol


Must be a bad 0.0 memory from Gibbo.