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Jenka Dacella
Elements of Darkness
#1 - 2012-06-28 10:12:32 UTC
Hi ppl
Havent been playing for 2 years but now im back! (:

i just wanna fool around with some lvl 4 missions maybe some highsec exploraion

Got 2 toons both around 30m sp
one who can fly golem / tengu
and one who can fly sleipnir / mach / vargur

witch toon 2 activate? and what ship do i fly for most / isk per hour

i guess its Golem vs Mach vs Tengu vs vargur Lol

dunno the value of lp / salvage / loot etc
Suqq Madiq
#2 - 2012-06-28 10:35:56 UTC
Jenka Dacella wrote:
Hi ppl
Havent been playing for 2 years but now im back! (:

i just wanna fool around with some lvl 4 missions maybe some highsec exploraion

Got 2 toons both around 30m sp
one who can fly golem / tengu
and one who can fly sleipnir / mach / vargur

witch toon 2 activate? and what ship do i fly for most / isk per hour

i guess its Golem vs Mach vs Tengu vs vargur Lol

dunno the value of lp / salvage / loot etc


In order of best ISK/hr, excluding Salvage/Loot because I never bother with it, Mach > Tengu > Vargur > Golem.
Willy Eckerslike
Explo Ding
#3 - 2012-06-28 13:14:48 UTC
I have flown a Vargur and a Tengu on other characters and I can honestly confirm that a Vargur will p**s all over a Tengu in earning ISK/hr.

The Vargur and Machariel are very similar on the damage dealing stakes, with the Vargur having the edge on safety due to it's lovely repping bonus.

One area that will eat slightly into your ISK/hr between Mach and Vargur is the ammo consumption. Whilst not a major impact, the fact that the Marauder turret bonus allows you to get the same damage out of 4 guns instead of 8 means that you only use half the ammo and makes it more attractive to load up with RF Fusion/EMP/PP for more DPS goodness.

Flying a Tengu is fun to start with because of the novelty of whizzing around in a cruiser hull, but it doesn't take long for the dullness to set in while you are waiting for your missiles to reach their target, counting salvos, avoiding webbers, etc.

Can't comment on the Golem.
Kalli Brixzat
#4 - 2012-06-29 04:14:18 UTC
Machariel certainly seems to be the best isk/hour L4 ship at the moment. A bit pricey for simple mission running, but it will certainly maximize your profits.

Tengu is the current "King of PvE" - offering you a platform that can do any everything from missions to DED sites to WH's. Best thing is that the Tengu does all these things exceptionally well with the ability to select any damage type. Not a bad PvP boat with 100MN and dual faction webs, but certainly well being the Loki and Proteus in the PvP department.

Vargur offers excellent DPS and tank, plus the ability to loot/salvage on the go. No matter what certain people say, if you can loot/salvage on the go, you're plain going to make more ISK for the time you spend. This boat is a touch costly for mission running and will take quite some time to make it worth the investment.

Golem offers amazing "paper" DPS, but, in actuality, will rarely live up to the spreadsheet. Vs. BC and BS sized rats, a triple Target Painter Golem is going give you OMGWTFIPRESSEDF1ANDITDIEDLOL DPS. Vs cruisers and below, you might as well save the ammo and let your drones do the work. Torps are kind of broken right now, so you're better off passing on the Golem as it stands right now. And, no, you CANNOT fit cruise missiles on a Golem...EVER.

Go Tengu...you'll be happier in the long run.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#5 - 2012-06-29 05:33:23 UTC
With machariel / vargur it will be easy to join incursion fleet - for x1.5 better profit and much more fun than L4 missions.
Kadeyoo
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-29 05:56:03 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
With machariel / vargur it will be easy to join incursion fleet - for x1.5 better profit and much more fun than L4 missions.


Funny. I've been sitting at this NRF gate for nearly an hour now, waiting for the FC to organize this fleet! (Granted, I should know better than to fly with TVP - but look at the time... :D )
Jenka Dacella
Elements of Darkness
#7 - 2012-06-29 11:49:48 UTC
Thx ppl (:
think i will go for the tengu, can any1 help me with a fit?
Gronn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-29 13:34:14 UTC
I personally like the Tengu, with my skills and implants I’m pushing 775.9 DPS T2 ammo and 606.2 T1 ammo and I never change my fit. The Machariel is a great mission ship but I dislike changing out hardeners for mission specific resists. With Hail and drones I get 1401 DPS, but I do change ammo for mission specific rats… When I’m bored I’ll do missions in a Loki, I put out about 900 DPS with T2 ammo and drones, but with medium auto cannon fall off you have to do a lot of flying towards your targets.
drdxie
#9 - 2012-06-29 17:32:31 UTC
Jenka Dacella wrote:
Thx ppl (:
think i will go for the tengu, can any1 help me with a fit?


I use the below fit, it is probably over tanked and very cap stable, but it had the T2 cap rigs in from my wh days and can't bring myself to destroy them and make the fit more efficient, but you do full damage to cruisers with fury, and it works great for me. When I go up against guristas I change 1 BCS for a grav backup array to help with jamming.

[Tengu, 1AB]
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node_2
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer_2
Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst_2
Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay_2
Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir_2

Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II_2, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile

Explosive Deflection Field II_2
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II_2
Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster_2
Shield Boost Amplifier II_2
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II_2
Explosive Deflection Field II_2

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System_2

Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I_2
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II_2
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II_2



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