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Modify the hybrid ammo
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Bouh Revetoile
In Wreck we thrust
#61 - 2012-06-29 14:55:46 UTC
Funky Lazers wrote:

I also don't think hybrids need a different/new damage type.
Although I really think Rails need more damage or tracking. You still can't compare them to Beams or Lasers at all.

This, rails need a bit more damage to dig the gap with arty's alpha. 5% would do it I think, or even better, 3 or 5% rof to give railgun a rapid fireing/low alpha flavor. There is also some margin for tracking to be improved without eating on beam table, but that could be done with ammo.
Edey
#62 - 2012-06-29 14:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Edey
VaL Iscariot wrote:
hybrid turrets fire a ball of supercharged plasma (thermal) down magnetic rails to near superluminal speeds which then slam into ships (kinetic) doing monster damage. There is no other damage type because it doesn't make since from a realistic stand point. Should lasers do anything more then electromagnetic and thermal? No. So why does this simple concept escape you?

Minmatar ammunition uses various slug pay loads to alter damage. I.E. Minmatar weapons are actually throwing physical rounds down range, where Gallente and Caldari hybrids are firing balls of molten energy. The same could be said of missiles.

Please stop posting crap like this. It is really getting old.

P.S.

Megathron's rule. Tempest's drool.



This is getting old when you always try to explain why weapon X can't have something Z.
EvE has no logic since there is no falloff, explosion damage and other things in real space. And yes, usually explosion does massive kinetic damage.
Using some kinky logic and explaining why lasers or anything else can't have some kind of damage is really old.
Pipa Porto
#63 - 2012-06-29 20:15:34 UTC
Bouh Revetoile wrote:
Funky Lazers wrote:

I also don't think hybrids need a different/new damage type.
Although I really think Rails need more damage or tracking. You still can't compare them to Beams or Lasers at all.

This, rails need a bit more damage to dig the gap with arty's alpha. 5% would do it I think, or even better, 3 or 5% rof to give railgun a rapid fireing/low alpha flavor. There is also some margin for tracking to be improved without eating on beam table, but that could be done with ammo.


They have range instead. That's their flavor. 120km off is pretty hard for Arty to deal with, especially since most don't run Sebo's to lock that far out.

They also fire pretty fast.

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#64 - 2012-06-29 20:18:11 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Bouh Revetoile wrote:
Funky Lazers wrote:

I also don't think hybrids need a different/new damage type.
Although I really think Rails need more damage or tracking. You still can't compare them to Beams or Lasers at all.

This, rails need a bit more damage to dig the gap with arty's alpha. 5% would do it I think, or even better, 3 or 5% rof to give railgun a rapid fireing/low alpha flavor. There is also some margin for tracking to be improved without eating on beam table, but that could be done with ammo.


They have range instead. That's their flavor. 120km off is pretty hard for Arty to deal with, especially since most don't run Sebo's to lock that far out.

They also fire pretty fast.



Lol PIPA !!

So, 1400's can't snipe at 245km? -Or shoot shortest range ammo with excellent damage at over 100km?

You joker Lol

brb
Pipa Porto
#65 - 2012-06-30 02:11:46 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Bouh Revetoile wrote:
Funky Lazers wrote:

I also don't think hybrids need a different/new damage type.
Although I really think Rails need more damage or tracking. You still can't compare them to Beams or Lasers at all.

This, rails need a bit more damage to dig the gap with arty's alpha. 5% would do it I think, or even better, 3 or 5% rof to give railgun a rapid fireing/low alpha flavor. There is also some margin for tracking to be improved without eating on beam table, but that could be done with ammo.


They have range instead. That's their flavor. 120km off is pretty hard for Arty to deal with, especially since most don't run Sebo's to lock that far out.

They also fire pretty fast.



Lol PIPA !!

So, 1400's can't snipe at 245km? -Or shoot shortest range ammo with excellent damage at over 100km?

You joker Lol


Even after a few extra looks, I can't tell if you're serious. (I hope you're not, but a lot of people think that Arty is actually good for sniping)

Because both of those are true. (Well, I fit up a Mael* that can hit 250km with Optimal+Falloff, but it only does 130 DPS at that range, which compares poorly to the standard fleet fit Rokhs ability to just swap ammo and get a 250km Optimal for 345dps)

*It's a Bad fit and I should be ashamed.

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