Intergalactic Summit

When systems defected because criminals did a better job at policing the streets than the Republic, they didn't care.

Despite the constant concerns pressed about Gallente taint in our culture, they don't care.

The war machine churns on and Minmatar of all ages die in tents in makeshift refugee camps. They don't care.

Even as we make our voices heard and confront them with the reality of their self-destructive path, they don't care.

Now the Republic have so carelessly squandered goods worth trillions in the most grossly reckless way possible, will they care?

Or will you again hide in the darkness, patting your fat wallets bought with blood-money, content with the knowledge that you have pulled the wool over the common man's eyes and represent the best hope for our people - the same people the Shakorite government exploits?

I am crestfallen to read these sentiments, not because I would suggest blind adherence to your nation's government, but because these sentiments are not without basis and backing.

Would that I could offer some manner of wisdom or advice, even tangential hope would raise my spirit, but words fail me.

I have a supply (albeit insignificant on the grander scale) of food and medical supplies that I would transfer to EoKI or SKDI under promise that it will reach planetside populations in the Republic. Upon request, clothing and building supplies can be added as well, though this will increase volume and thus the danger in transporting them.

Should this be beneficial, please contact me.

That sounds like the typical, indifferent response we'd be spoon-fed from someone speaking on the behalf of the Republic whilst having their pockets lined. The loss of trillions occured to devious means. You've chastised me admirably.

The last administration was fraught with corruption, just like Shakor's. Two governments, one Republic. Quoting Shakorite propaganda doesn't change the real life truths. Just look around for a little while and see the real state of the Republic.

Wait, what am I saying? Why would a Politician claim to stand for one thing and then deliver another?

This discussion makes me realize that I'm not much either a Republican nor a Tribalist; All I've really focused on in this "war" is making money and trying to justify it by putting the Minmatar reportedly in control.

The capsuleers' side of the militia has felt more like a game chess in which the pieces never leave the board. Maybe this is just how efficient fighting feels.

All capsuleer war's are like that, until the will of one side is broken.

The CONCORD act that enabled the formation of the militias has been amended once. Previously there was only occupation, now there is sovereignty-lite and station lock out. With more pressure we may be able to get full CONCORD recognition of sovereignty change.

I don't follow your logic. You could always channel more of that ISK you keep going on about into those camps. Build infrastructure, roads, schools and so on. Rich people have a duty too you know.

Yes.
You are arguing that all is doom and gloom and bemoaning the idea that someone else isn't doing anything about it,
I'm saying, are you sure?
You say look around.
I say show me
You say it's gloomy
I say, well light a candle then
You say "you're not listening"
I say ^^

Yes, I read your corps manifesto before replying initially to the thread. I also scanned through news items to see if I'd missed anything recent. Hence my request for sources.

I think the core of your argument is that the Republic is giving war materiel for the fight under the Faction Warfare act, as it's known, and that they should instead be using those resources to rehouse the returnees and increase the lot of the ordinary Matar.

Forgive me if I presume too much, but you are rather reticent, for someone who writes a lot, and I am trying to read between the emotive subtexts.

You're argument is very much like what Karin Midular put forward. ie build the Republic and forget those that remain enslaved.

Sorry, but the Elders and the Minmatar peoples made a choice. The fruits are not yet fully ripened and you are trying to hack down the tree.

Most of those people who you are altruistically supporting actually came to the Republic as a consequence of that choice.

Yes things are moving slowly, too slowly, and the San Matar and the Republic government does need to show action.

I do understand.

What we can do, as capsuleers is to ensure the safety of that Republic and go beyond what they can overtly do.

Ava Starfire, I am sorry to hear that your heart is in such turmoil. Others have gone through the same. It's what you choose to do now that will define you.

Being a capsuleer and having the agents fawn over us does tend to give us a sense of over-entitlement but the Elders probably care more for the common Minmatar than they care for you, a rich and powerful one.

I-RED are a good enough bunch, but less so than the Gallente Federation, who you have spoken against.

As for the San Matar personally handing over ISK to pirates and profiteers. You do know that the Tribal Liberation Force doesn't actually pay anyone ISK per se, just discounted items, which the pirates and profiteers then sell to other pirates and profiteers, shifting money around the pirates and profiteers' economy rather than creating it.

First it's gloom and now it's brilliant headlights. See, we are making progress.

But seriously.

Discounted, not free. The capsuleer (aka pirate and profiteer) pays for the ship. They get that money from other capsuleers.

And the people who build the ship are paid for their work

So, in a sense, the TLF program is actually channeling money from the capsuleers to the workers

And some capsuleers who actually are using the materiel to liberate enslaved Minmatar get discounted ships too.

Win win?

You are measuring the wealth of the pirate and profiteers against other capsuleers. it's what they do with that wealth that makes the difference.

PS: I'm not going to get into a war economy vs peace economy argument here

Theoretically yes. In practice, no... especially when the system is being shafted for all it's worth, especially when we take a closer look at the numbers and just how discounted the items in question are - discounted under the premise that the buyers are helping the war effort (which they weren't).

Come on.

Is Kade the only person who is going to show some backbone?