Missions & Complexes

I've had the standing for a while to run level 4s but no where near the ISK to afford a BS. I make so little off level 3s that it will take me forever to be able to afford even the cheapest BS though. So would it be possible to run level 4s in my myrmidon so I could get the cash up quicker for a BS?

my fit.

5x T1 250 rails
1 tractor

AB
4x cap rechargers II


dc II
2x MAR II
2x mission specific hardners II
drone damage thing II


Side question. I'm still pretty far from T2 hybrids, but do have T2 lasers. Would i be better off with an Amarr BS for missions since I can fit T2 guns? I've heard they're not the best for missions which is why I cross trained to gallente, but I can only fit T1 hyrbrids (although I do have T2 light and medium drones) With how tight money is when I finally can afford a BS I want to buy the right one for what I want which is an efficient high sec mission runner to fund the losses I'm going to incur learning PvP.


one last question. I have salvage skill at 5, but I really can't tell if it's worth the time it takes to fly back to a station, refit salvagers and tractors, fly back and salvage everything. Is this something I should be doing? I know dual boxing is much better for that, but I do not have two accounts so that isn't an option.

I've never thought about putting the lasers on my myrmidon since it doesn't have any hybrid bonus anyway. I'm currently cap stable running both reppers which I like for missions but my cap skills are high enough I may be able to still pull that off. Thanks for the suggestion.

I mission in amarr space which seems to be mostly sansha or gallente npcs.

well part of the problem is I have a pretty intense job so if I get about 2 hours of play every other day at best.

Making between 2-3 mil a mission that's 26 missions at best not including any cost of replacing T2 drones who don't return to bay before getting popped.
Is that normal for what I should be making or is that maybe something I'm doing wrong?

Well, replacing T2 drones is costly. It'll eat up almost all the profit. It can (and will) happen, but it shouldn't.

Your problem is aggro management then. try the following:

1. Read up on the mission!

2. Decide on tactic. Pull a group by shooting them (just firing is enough, even if you are way out of range) and avoid pulling additional groups, as their aggro is pretty unpredictable (This is also important if you have no drones ...)
2a. Deploy drones after all members of that group appear flashing red or yellow squares in the overview.
2b. If you pull additional groups NOT by actively shooting them, recall your drones asap and redeploy them.

3. If you know the next wave is due, recall them as soon (or better, just before) you kill the trigger.

4. Have the drone window open and expand the "drones in space". As soon as a drone starts to taking damage, recall it.

After some time it'll become second nature.

If your time is limited, just do 2-3 missions in that time and concentrate on not loosing drones. It's a game, no one pays you for rushing it.

Yes you can, but the myrm will kill stuff slower than a BS to the point you will actually make ISK faster sticking to 3s. Add the extra risk and the slower income and it just isn't worth it. But if you want to do it for the FUN factor go for it. Some people like doing 4s in frigates.

About your myrm fit.

Drop the salvager and fit as many guns as possible, salvage the old fashion way after the mission with a destroyer with tractors and salvagers, prop mod and cargo expanders.

If you can fit on a target painter or omni tracking link this will help your drones.

Some level fours have shortcuts, try and use them at first.

Examples: -

Recon I - has great bounties but you do not need to kill the NPC’s so kill what you can and leave.

Recon II complete in a fast frig.

Recon III - easy mission just use multiple hardeners.

Duo of Death is easy just watch for spider drones.

Cargo delivery can also be blitzed easily

Avoid missions with three damage types.

There are missions where rats do not have to be killed to activate gates. Such as The Assault. I used to kill an isolated battleship group then go back to the gate leaving the rest, next two pockets were easier

If you find you can complete a pocket with good bounties and are short of time then a mission can be farmed by not completing it, the mission will reset at downtime. You should have seven days.

I think you can and should start running l4s. They definitely net you more isk and a lot of them aren’t even that much harder.

When you start running them, check sites like http://eve-survival.org to know what you’re up against. Always check, if you can blitz missions, because this will be more profitable as long as you run with a low damage ship like the myrm.

You should make money relatively fast and then should think about getting an apoc, as was mentioned above already. For em weak rats this is an excellent starter bs and will breeze through l4s fast.

Since nobody else said anything...

Most people train the weapon specialization skills (required for T2) to level 4. On turrets, this equates to T2s putting out about 8% more dps.

myrmidon is a sad sad ship :(. BTW did you know you could fit the same tank as a drake, in other words passive shield recharge, just make sure to use capless guns and to allow 1-2 hrs per lvl 4 mission.

If you have t2 large lazors shouldn't you be running lvl 4s in an armageddon - at least it has more bandwidth than the drone battlecruiser :)

Hrm, well they have made a few changes to the loot tables since I did 3s. If a player's skills are weak, the risk/reward for doing 4s in a myrm might still not be worth it. Certianly, one should get in a BS asap. As sentries will tear up 4s much better.