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Corp hopping. Is it going to be addressed? It's reaching ridiculous levels.

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#141 - 2012-06-29 09:34:33 UTC
The "come to null if you want a fight" stuff in regards to corp hopping is also stupid. Oh yeah, you're more than happy for a fight if the other guy has to come to you, through the space you or your friends own and then face you when you have hundreds of buddies with you. The second you step into hisec though you immediately drop corp to avoid them... sure is brave of you, mr nullbear
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2012-06-29 11:10:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
The "come to null if you want a fight" stuff in regards to corp hopping is also stupid. Oh yeah, you're more than happy for a fight if the other guy has to come to you, through the space you or your friends own and then face you when you have hundreds of buddies with you. The second you step into hisec though you immediately drop corp to avoid them... sure is brave of you, mr nullbear


QFT.

They talk about 0.0 as if it was THEIR natural environment, but they hang around High Sec all the time, trading and moving ships and redeploying and actually doing many more things that your average mission runner in High Sec.

Still, unless you GO 50 jumps into the systems they call "their own", they question your sexuality, EvE habilities, your morals and basically your EVERYTHING, including whether your mother's affection is negotiable on streets of ill repute.

If, on the other side, THEY happen to stumble across you in the system YOU usually hang about, you should leave them alone, and go to deep 0.0 to try and gank an Erebus in your Hurricane you sucker, and shut the **** up, and you are just a useless haul ganker, and terrible at EvE, and please refrain from logging in, posting on the forums or actually ever leave your house again, you friendless dreg of humanity.

Still, the point remains: I pay for a war and the price is stablished on a "per pilot" basis. Pilots corp hop to avoid fights and my money is not refunded, nor I can keep shooting them for a small period of time which would only be fair.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#143 - 2012-06-29 11:14:42 UTC
Actually making pilots that leave corp during a war still a target for a certain amount of time after or until the war ends sounds good. If they don't want to be, then they need to pay a get out fee to the corp war decking. Sounds reasonable.

Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk

Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#144 - 2012-06-29 11:39:21 UTC
Rats wrote:
Actually making pilots that leave corp during a war still a target for a certain amount of time after or until the war ends sounds good. If they don't want to be, then they need to pay a get out fee to the corp war decking. Sounds reasonable.

Tal



That's what everybody is suggesting. A small 24h frame that will make you a valid target after quitting your corp IF you didn't quit before hostilities started. Like, you get the war notification to get ready in 24 hours yadda yadda, you quit fair and straight and no problems.

But if you DO stick with your corp, then you are at war and logging off + getting kicked in front of a gate camp won't save you.

If you want to genuinely change corps, it's just 24 hours. Like a jump clone. No big deal.
But if you want to quit your corp to be able to get past a fleet undisturbed...then you'd be out of luck.

24 hours of aggression timer for corp quitters during wartime is a very, very small change to the game that would eliminate a real mistake/exploit from the game.

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#145 - 2012-06-29 12:09:46 UTC
Darius Brinn wrote:
Rats wrote:
Actually making pilots that leave corp during a war still a target for a certain amount of time after or until the war ends sounds good. If they don't want to be, then they need to pay a get out fee to the corp war decking. Sounds reasonable.

Tal



That's what everybody is suggesting. A small 24h frame that will make you a valid target after quitting your corp IF you didn't quit before hostilities started. Like, you get the war notification to get ready in 24 hours yadda yadda, you quit fair and straight and no problems.

But if you DO stick with your corp, then you are at war and logging off + getting kicked in front of a gate camp won't save you.

If you want to genuinely change corps, it's just 24 hours. Like a jump clone. No big deal.
But if you want to quit your corp to be able to get past a fleet undisturbed...then you'd be out of luck.

24 hours of aggression timer for corp quitters during wartime is a very, very small change to the game that would eliminate a real mistake/exploit from the game.



Unfortunately I doubt CCP will listen to this suggestion because it doesn't benefit the big null alliances. Lately CCP seem to be more interested in helping entrench and reinforce the big established null alliances
Asuri Kinnes
Perkone
Caldari State
#146 - 2012-06-29 12:12:14 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
Darius Brinn wrote:
After the changes to war mechanics, small corps have it harder to wage war on large alliances, an activity that could prove very lucrative if done right.

However, today I'm here to cry and whine about good ole' corp hopping. Yes. Again.

We're currently in the middle of a tiny and friendly war with AAA pilots,


Wait a second. Isn't AAA a nullsec alliance? I'm sure if you want a fight, you can go pretty much anywhere in the south-east and you will get a fight with as much AAA than you can handle. You don't need war decs in low or nullsec to shoot people.

Oh wait. You're trying to gank -A- haulers, -A- ships being ferried, and generally harass the occasional -A- pilot that ventures into high sec. Now it's clear. Well guess what - if you want to use cowardly tactics, expect failure. Fortune favors the brave. Bring your whole alliance to Catch. I promise you'll get people who don't switch corps. At least on our side. I expect all your carebears will jump ship pretty quick once their shiny Bhaalgorns get nuked.

I haven't read the whole thread, but had to respond to this.


Part of war, is denying your enemy the ability to move about freely, secure logistics and "safe" routes to do anything. By "corp hopping" these pilots (and their corp/alliance) are able to conduct "operations in support of war" without interference. By saying "go somewhere else" your saying it's ok to have invulnerable logistics and support because... ?

Bob is the god of Wormholes.

That's all you need to know.

Mangone
Plan.B
#147 - 2012-07-10 12:39:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Mangone
Darius Brinn wrote:
Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:
Sounds like some one's butthurt with AAA.

Corp hopping is part of the game, encouraged even.


Sounds like someone's tongue would reach AAA's upper intestines if AAA stopped all of a sudden.

Also, our small and irrelevant campagin against AAA has a current balance of 8 kills and 0 deaths for the first day.

Our campaing against En Garde is 12:1 (you got an Inty, I think), but it's way more fun because En Garde actually EJECTS tackled ships (ask your Alliance mate Sanada Prime).

This, in short, is not the point.

Corp hopping bypasses the "risk vs reward" mantra, unlike suicide ganking. Gankers LOSE their ships 100% of the time. Corp hopping is stupid.

Also, no, sir. I'm not sitting in my little sandbox refusing to adapt. But perhaps the fact that all CCP changes is pointed at making it HARDER to do small scale PvP against big alliances should grant me some temporary rights to complain.

It's not a matter of ADAPTING. It's a DESIGN FLAW that allows WAR TARGETS from a war that costed us money to QUIT THE WAR unilaterally with no consequences, and whenever they see fit.

This goes against all that EvE represents as a PvP game.


Cool guys bragging with hisec afk hauler kills with targets that wasnt going to fight anyways.. Are you now bad boy when you have killed some engardave hisec haulers? And does that make you brave hero that the guy you decided to harass didnt want to fight you so he ejected. Atleast hes pod is save. Im also not intrested to fight you guys. Why would i? My ships are in null and i havent seen you great heros in null. Im not coming in hisec to fight you. Why would i? Im not intrested to fight some funny guys 50 jumps away.

And now to the topic. Im gonna do some corp hopping to get rid of these idiotic wardecks with douches wanting to gank me while they afraid to come in null.
As im not intrested to fight these hisec gank heros. I just corp hop myself free. After all i pay from this game and i want to have fun. Not being perma decked by some funny guys who doesnt even come to fight because their afraid to lose their ships...

Edit: I remember iberians from year back. They were suicide ganking 20mil t2 frigs in orvolle to pad their stats..
And thats suicide gank not war...

http://www.iberians.org/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12239

Also the kills you heroes bragging with. So EPIC war.

Magnate, helios, buzzard, stiletto, atron, noctis, iteron mark III, claw, PVE dominix and RR fitted dominix that the guy was moving without intel. Still he killed your 400mil faction fitted rapier even you guys blobbed him 6 to 1 and jammed him with falcon. So why wouldnt you just stop bragging as it only makes you guys look funny.
Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#148 - 2012-07-10 12:49:21 UTC
CCP should just remove all PVP from Highsec, and put lowsec between all the major empires.
And add more Lowsec between the Null areas too, along with merging local into constellation chat.

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Zahira Wrath
Doomheim
#149 - 2012-07-10 17:39:39 UTC
Darius Brinn wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Darius Brinn wrote:

How come this hasn't still been addressed as an EXPLOIT?




I didn't realise that leaving the corp you're in voluntarily was an exploit. Silly me!


Quiting a corp is not an exploit.

Leaving and rejoining corps without penalties to avoid war situations should be. It's using unintended game flaws to bypass the rules.

Silly you.



What are the specific "rules" that are being bypassed by these "unintended game flaws", exactly?

Please feel free to point to the EULA, quotes from directly from CCP, or the Eve WIKI with references. Straight
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2012-07-11 21:26:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
Mangone wrote:


Cool guys bragging with hisec afk hauler kills with targets that wasnt going to fight anyways.. Are you now bad boy when you have killed some engardave hisec haulers? And does that make you brave hero that the guy you decided to harass didnt want to fight you so he ejected. Atleast hes pod is save. Im also not intrested to fight you guys. Why would i? My ships are in null and i havent seen you great heros in null. Im not coming in hisec to fight you. Why would i? Im not intrested to fight some funny guys 50 jumps away.


it's not a matter of what YOU are interested in fighting. It's a matter of EvE offering a system to be able to shoot Alliances, and CHARGING for it. Then the system gets bypassed for free.

If you think CCP considers corp hopping as "intended mechanics", then please explain why the new rule to prevent hoppers to rejoin for a week. A good move, indeed.

Mangone wrote:
And now to the topic. Im gonna do some corp hopping to get rid of these idiotic wardecks with douches wanting to gank me while they afraid to come in null.
As im not intrested to fight these hisec gank heros. I just corp hop myself free. After all i pay from this game and i want to have fun. Not being perma decked by some funny guys who doesnt even come to fight because their afraid to lose their ships...


Again, the (false) notion that I have to go through 50 systems to find you because YOU think it's the only "fair" way. Or that people are "afraid" to go places. Listen, pal: you ARE coming to High Sec and there IS a MUCH PROMOTIONED so called "war system" that costs good Isk and that it's being bypassed. As simple as that.

Mangone wrote:
Edit: I remember iberians from year back. They were suicide ganking 20mil t2 frigs in orvolle to pad their stats... And thats suicide gank not war...


In two years I only remember one single suicide-ganked frigate in High Sec. It was a moron in a bomber who stayed uncloaked after making it though a gate camp, and some corpie thought "what the hell", locked with his Thrasher and pressed F1 = dead bomber. Big deal.

Could be more, but your moronic claims of killboard padding with frigates (LOL) could do with some backing. Come on, don't be lazy. Please review our killboard or Battleclinic, and illustrate us on how many of our kills are "T2 frigates in Orvolle" out of wartime.

Ad hominem attacks (to individual or corps) don't precisely back up your opinions, as you should know.

Mangone wrote:
Also the kills you heroes bragging with. So EPIC war.

Magnate, helios, buzzard, stiletto, atron, noctis, iteron mark III, claw, PVE dominix and RR fitted dominix that the guy was moving without intel. Still he killed your 400mil faction fitted rapier even you guys blobbed him 6 to 1 and jammed him with falcon. So why wouldnt you just stop bragging as it only makes you guys look funny.


LOL. You ARE aware that the crap that we killed is the crap that those dudes were flying around, aren't you? If Covops come by, Covops are shot. If PvE Dominixes are moved without intel during a war, PvE Dominixes are shot. We cannot control what they decide to undock.

Also, it's not a matter of the war being epic or not (which is not), nor anybody bragged about anything (why should we?). Those things only happened in your delusional little mind. It was just stated that your crybaby claims of "hauler ganking" are not based on facts, and that combat ships are in fact the most usual ship attacked.

If anybody, you're the one making a fool of yourself. And your personal attacks are absolutely irrelevant to the topic.

EDIT: Ah, now I see why you seem to be so personally butthurt. You were in En Garde...UNTIL yesteday. Maybe corp hopping to avoid a war? AMIRITE?
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2012-07-11 21:35:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
Zahira Wrath wrote:


What are the specific "rules" that are being bypassed by these "unintended game flaws", exactly?

Please feel free to point to the EULA, quotes from directly from CCP, or the Eve WIKI with references. Straight


You can find the rules for wartime aggression yourself. You look like a bright lad.

Also, the fact that these are UNINTENDED "flaws/side effects" of the rules is clearly proved by the fact that CCP DID introduce modifications to the system with Inferno.

Also, you can find several CCP references about CHANGES specifically discussed to avoid corp-hopping. For instance, Paradox getting user info on this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1197884#post1197884

CCP HAS BEEN addressing this because it IS seen as an undesired effect of the current mechanics. Denying this is ridiculous: now you cannot rejoin your corp for 7 days if you hop.

Also, directly from CCP's blog:

Quote:
Q: What about corp-hopping?
A: We're adding tracking in the backend to track this. How we will then display it in game is undecided, but we do have stories in the backlog (todo list) for the character war history to show if the character left a corp at war. We also want to have it cost a little to corp-hop during a war. We're also looking into not allowing you to join a corp you've left during a war while that war is still ongoing. We're also exploring some limitations to joining and leaving a corp on the fly.


If this hasn't been solved completely is because CCP is not prioritizing it, not because it's endorsed. It's CCP's intention TO MARK AND BRAND corp hoppers, at the very least. With a possibility of having hoppers suffer an economic penalty.

Now, please keep claiming High Sec deccers are cowards, or how my corp sucks, and keep telling me how I should play and how true PvP is defined by whatever the **** you find convenient at any given time.
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#152 - 2012-07-11 21:50:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Hiyora Akachi
So. You're here, whining about someone avoiding a Wardec while also hoping to catch a stray -A- member in Highsec.


-A- is a nullsec corp right?

They have territory right?

If above is yes, TAKE THE FIGHT TO THEM. Your corp needs to grow a pair and invade their space! Stop being a bunch of whiny little bitches on the forum and stomp some face!

Hell, steal their space if you're feeling frisky!


EDIT: Also stopped reading after your OP. Felt my input above would be constructive.
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#153 - 2012-07-11 22:01:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius Brinn
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
So. You're here, whining about someone avoiding a Wardec while also hoping to catch a stray -A- member in Highsec.


-A- is a nullsec corp right?

They have territory right?

If above is yes, TAKE THE FIGHT TO THEM. Your corp needs to grow a pair and invade their space! Stop being a bunch of whiny little bitches on the forum and stomp some face!

Hell, steal their space if you're feeling frisky!


EDIT: Also stopped reading after your OP. Felt my input above would be constructive.


Your input is indeed valued and I thank you for it. However, what you suggested has already been introduced several times, and answered back.

-A- is A CORP. Period.

They have territory, and still there seems to be a terribly big amount of them buzzing around High sec doing their little deeds.

Also, apparently it's hard for some people to get around the idea that I will not be told WHERE or HOW to fight. No, I don't want to go 50 systems into -A- territory because there seem to be an awful lot of -A- pilots right here at my doorstep, thank you very much. And no, that does not make me a coward. Leaving my corp if I got decced does, though.

If CCP has implemented a war system, and I want to use it, I will. Big Alliances are not meant to be immune from types of PvP not in their big plans of territory acquisition and politics. High Sec is not meant to be PvP-free.

You are suggesting that me and my terribly small corp should invade -A-, or else LEAVE THEM ALONE? And not doing that makes ME a coward? I can see you didn't really put much thought into this.

In the meantime, I kindly request CCP to speed up their planned actions against corp hopping to avoid wars. Thank you very much.
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#154 - 2012-07-11 23:06:34 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Kyle Ward wrote:
Ewww! I bet their Corp History tab is just a huge mess...

Oh, I have a story to tell about this.

I once warred a carebear miner corporation, the members of which were not even aware of the "corp history" feature. Some of them were many years old. They jumped between their alt corporations each time I put out a new war, per their CEO's instructions. When I pointed out their hip-hoppin' corp histories, a few of them panicked. One even biomassed his character because he thought that he would no longer be "employable" otherwise. When I questioned the integrity of that decision, he told me it doesn't matter anyway because he "only" had four million skillpoints. He was over a year old. Apparently, his CEO told him that once he got into a Hulk, he'd never need anything else, so he stopped training his skills.
That was a most enjoyable tale of great corps in EVE. Big smile

That CEO must have been making bank off of his gullible minions. "Hey guys, mine with [for] me and we will really rake in the ISKies [after I take my cut]. Or he was an idiot. Pirate

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#155 - 2012-07-11 23:33:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Severide
Darius Brinn wrote:


They talk about 0.0 as if it was THEIR natural environment, but they hang around High Sec all the time, trading and moving ships and redeploying and actually doing many more things that your average mission runner in High Sec.

Still, unless you GO 50 jumps into the systems they call "their own", they question your sexuality, EvE habilities, your morals and basically your EVERYTHING, including whether your mother's affection is negotiable on streets of ill repute.

If, on the other side, THEY happen to stumble across you in the system YOU usually hang about, you should leave them alone, and go to deep 0.0 to try and gank an Erebus in your Hurricane you sucker, and shut the **** up, and you are just a useless haul ganker, and terrible at EvE, and please refrain from logging in, posting on the forums or actually ever leave your house again, you friendless dreg of humanity.

Still, the point remains: I pay for a war and the price is stablished on a "per pilot" basis. Pilots corp hop to avoid fights and my money is not refunded, nor I can keep shooting them for a small period of time which would only be fair.

Corp hopping sounds to me the tactic of a gutless pansy...


Hiyora Akachi wrote:
So. You're here, whining about someone avoiding a Wardec while also hoping to catch a stray -A- member in Highsec.


-A- is a nullsec corp right?

They have territory right?

If above is yes, TAKE THE FIGHT TO THEM. Your corp needs to grow a pair and invade their space! Stop being a bunch of whiny little bitches on the forum and stomp some face!

Hell, steal their space if you're feeling frisky!

Big mouth fools are a dime a dozen. Numb nutz...
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
T O P S H E L F
#156 - 2012-07-12 01:21:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Hiyora Akachi
Hehe, I love when people yell at me on the internet.

I also love "War" Decing in EvE.

1: Let's war dec this corp guys!

2: Cool! Are we gonna engage in fleet comabt with them?

1: No, we're gonna gatecamp High sec trading hubs!

2: ...


Explain the war aspect of this to me.

All the threads of people bitching about others avoiding their highsec gatecamps by corp dropping has put me off PvP.
InternetSpaceship
State War Academy
Caldari State
#157 - 2012-07-12 02:08:24 UTC
Wardecs are so adorable.

"Let's have a fight, please. Straight"

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If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.  If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#158 - 2012-07-12 02:09:11 UTC
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
Hehe, I love when people yell at me on the internet.

I also love "War" Decing in EvE.

1: Let's war dec this corp guys!

2: Cool! Are we gonna engage in fleet comabt with them?

1: No, we're gonna gatecamp High sec trading hubs!

2: ...


Explain the war aspect of this to me.

All the threads of people bitching about others avoiding their highsec gatecamps by corp dropping has put me off PvP.

Yep, sitting on the undock of a trade hub looking for moronic haulers is the way to PvP.

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Mangone
Plan.B
#159 - 2012-07-12 05:59:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Mangone
Darius Brinn wrote:
Mangone wrote:


Cool guys bragging with hisec afk hauler kills with targets that wasnt going to fight anyways.. Are you now bad boy when you have killed some engardave hisec haulers? And does that make you brave hero that the guy you decided to harass didnt want to fight you so he ejected. Atleast hes pod is save. Im also not intrested to fight you guys. Why would i? My ships are in null and i havent seen you great heros in null. Im not coming in hisec to fight you. Why would i? Im not intrested to fight some funny guys 50 jumps away.


it's not a matter of what YOU are interested in fighting. It's a matter of EvE offering a system to be able to shoot Alliances, and CHARGING for it. Then the system gets bypassed for free.

If you think CCP considers corp hopping as "intended mechanics", then please explain why the new rule to prevent hoppers to rejoin for a week. A good move, indeed.

Mangone wrote:
And now to the topic. Im gonna do some corp hopping to get rid of these idiotic wardecks with douches wanting to gank me while they afraid to come in null.
As im not intrested to fight these hisec gank heros. I just corp hop myself free. After all i pay from this game and i want to have fun. Not being perma decked by some funny guys who doesnt even come to fight because their afraid to lose their ships...


Again, the (false) notion that I have to go through 50 systems to find you because YOU think it's the only "fair" way. Or that people are "afraid" to go places. Listen, pal: you ARE coming to High Sec and there IS a MUCH PROMOTIONED so called "war system" that costs good Isk and that it's being bypassed. As simple as that.

Mangone wrote:
Edit: I remember iberians from year back. They were suicide ganking 20mil t2 frigs in orvolle to pad their stats... And thats suicide gank not war...


In two years I only remember one single suicide-ganked frigate in High Sec. It was a moron in a bomber who stayed uncloaked after making it though a gate camp, and some corpie thought "what the hell", locked with his Thrasher and pressed F1 = dead bomber. Big deal.

Could be more, but your moronic claims of killboard padding with frigates (LOL) could do with some backing. Come on, don't be lazy. Please review our killboard or Battleclinic, and illustrate us on how many of our kills are "T2 frigates in Orvolle" out of wartime.

Ad hominem attacks (to individual or corps) don't precisely back up your opinions, as you should know.

Mangone wrote:
Also the kills you heroes bragging with. So EPIC war.

Magnate, helios, buzzard, stiletto, atron, noctis, iteron mark III, claw, PVE dominix and RR fitted dominix that the guy was moving without intel. Still he killed your 400mil faction fitted rapier even you guys blobbed him 6 to 1 and jammed him with falcon. So why wouldnt you just stop bragging as it only makes you guys look funny.


LOL. You ARE aware that the crap that we killed is the crap that those dudes were flying around, aren't you? If Covops come by, Covops are shot. If PvE Dominixes are moved without intel during a war, PvE Dominixes are shot. We cannot control what they decide to undock.

Also, it's not a matter of the war being epic or not (which is not), nor anybody bragged about anything (why should we?). Those things only happened in your delusional little mind. It was just stated that your crybaby claims of "hauler ganking" are not based on facts, and that combat ships are in fact the most usual ship attacked.

If anybody, you're the one making a fool of yourself. And your personal attacks are absolutely irrelevant to the topic.

EDIT: Ah, now I see why you seem to be so personally butthurt. You were in En Garde...UNTIL yesteday. Maybe corp hopping to avoid a war? AMIRITE?



Im just saying.. If you pansies wanna fight, come fight...

What you guys do now is that you kill all stupid afk pilots who didnt bother to read their mails etc.
(thats what you guys calling "buying targets")

Im also saying that if you guys want to look PVP alliance or even get little respect. Try to brag with some war where someone actually shot back.

And btw. good to hear that you guys also stat padded by suicide ganking stealth bombers. Because i was flying interceptor when your alliance suicide ganked me. The guy was also bragging on local how he won isk war (funny guy even posted concord loss on iberian kb :D)...

And yes i was sitting afk in hisec. In 20mil interceptor with empty cargo. So what? You guys going to suicide gank every ship in hisec because you feel so?

At the end i didnt even bother to read your whole mail. I know the BS iberians talk when someone says something "bad".

But whatever.. And have fun o7
Mangone
Plan.B
#160 - 2012-07-12 06:32:17 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
Hehe, I love when people yell at me on the internet.

I also love "War" Decing in EvE.

1: Let's war dec this corp guys!

2: Cool! Are we gonna engage in fleet comabt with them?

1: No, we're gonna gatecamp High sec trading hubs!

2: ...


Explain the war aspect of this to me.

All the threads of people bitching about others avoiding their highsec gatecamps by corp dropping has put me off PvP.

Yep, sitting on the undock of a trade hub looking for moronic haulers is the way to PvP.


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