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AFK Cloaking is botting.

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Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-06-26 23:34:02 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Sekket wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?


Boredom.


I said Counter, not cause.


It is the counter. Watching rocks evaporate is boring. They go afk to do something more stimulating. On the rare occasions I mine I bring a book.
  • CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.

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Pipa Porto
#42 - 2012-06-26 23:36:32 UTC
Sekket wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Sekket wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?


Boredom.


I said Counter, not cause.


It is the counter. Watching rocks evaporate is boring. They go afk to do something more stimulating. On the rare occasions I mine I bring a book.


Sounds like the Counter to boredom is "not mining"

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Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-06-26 23:39:27 UTC
If you get bored while mining you are doing it wrong, thus conditions are required for happy mining.

A) Friends, don't mine solo unless you live with cats.
B) Alcohol
C) Voice Comms

When all three of these conditions have been met mining becomes a party.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#44 - 2012-06-26 23:41:31 UTC
I am cloaking with radio silence right now so that's legit. But I confess that this post is being typed by my forum bot.

Is that bad?

Mr Epeen Cool
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-06-27 09:40:36 UTC
Why isn't everyone banned yet? You're all botting! You're all botting by leaving posts on the forum where everyone can see, thereby meaning you don't have to physically be at your keyboard for us to read your opinions.

You filthy botter scum.

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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2012-06-27 09:42:43 UTC
This thread is botting. Ban OP.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#47 - 2012-06-27 09:49:54 UTC
Captain PewPew wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Um... no it isn't.


Botting is using a 3rd party program to mimic human behavior, ie to play the game for you.

AFK cloaking is specifically not playing the game.


Botting is a computer controlling and affecting an environment without human presence.
How are they stopping you doing anything, whilst AFK?

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Zleon Leigh
#48 - 2012-06-27 09:53:35 UTC
roflmao

By his definition - anyone sitting in station while sitting on the throne in RL is botting...

0/10

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nat longshot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2012-06-27 09:56:45 UTC
afk cloaking is not botting. one its like sitting in your car and not going anywere deal with it lol listen to all these people crying about afk cloaking is way funny. please keep it up i love low sec and 0.0 tears.

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Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#50 - 2012-06-27 10:06:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Guys you forget about one importand thing, to all those afk cloak whiners.

Cloaking ships are most cool feature in game, if you dont get cloak yet is time to train it.

No difirence betwen AFK cloaking and active cloaking because even som one is afk you dont know this! he may back and decloak in critical moment for you... While not afk how you know he afk while cloak ? this make no sense.

What the point of He is afk and i cant see a cloaked ship ? Should a cloaked ship decloak because you want, or shoud be always visible while this ship got ability to use cloak...

Come on... To all nullbears, go to mining ore in empire or do lvl 4! if you want fell safe... 0.0 is designed to be dangerus place.
Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#51 - 2012-06-27 10:14:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Captain PewPewPirate
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Frying Doom
#52 - 2012-06-27 10:16:02 UTC
Honestly fancy being afraid of one cloaked ship.

Grow a pair.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#53 - 2012-06-27 10:34:28 UTC
Captain PewPew wrote:
To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.

Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.

Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.



OP is probably sitting AFK in his outpost deep in 0.0 spewing rage in RL bcause he cant play because there is someone cloaked in 'his' system.... Blissfully unaware as the irony circles around him.

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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#54 - 2012-06-27 10:46:40 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?


AFK cloaking asteroids, they're a terrible blight and need to be dealt with as often as possible Lol

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TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#55 - 2012-06-27 11:12:21 UTC
I bloody love cloak whine threads. I can't get enough of them. The idea that an AFK player who is incapable of doing anything rustles this many jimmies makes me so happy. Poor baby nullsec miner tears fuel my cloak module.
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#56 - 2012-06-27 12:01:06 UTC
Captain PewPew wrote:
To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.

Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of hinder botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.

Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.
FYP, makes it more clear why the OP is mad.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-06-27 12:23:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
I still believe there should be some method to scan down a cloaked ship.
Granted it should take a very long time for actual cloaky ships and less for say a drake with a cloak but both should be scannable with enough time.

I am talking 20 minutes.

One probe to find a player and put you on the same grid. (random 100 ~ 200km distance from them)
Another probe that can find a player with a slow moving probe that basically explodes and decloaks them.
Wrath of Khan "The thing has to have a tail pipe"
PS - can only use a covert OPS to find the cloaky ship.


IF someone is truly AFK they can be found. if not well the chances would be almost 0.
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-06-27 12:39:30 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Um... no it isn't.


Botting is using a 3rd party program to mimic human behavior, ie to play the game for you.

AFK cloaking is specifically not playing the game.


This

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Kyle Ward
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-06-27 12:45:00 UTC
I once AFK cloaked a little, totally by accident...
It excited me...

The Sandbox, you're playing it wrong!

TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#60 - 2012-06-27 13:05:56 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
I still believe there should be some method to scan down a cloaked ship.
Granted it should take a very long time for actual cloaky ships and less for say a drake with a cloak but both should be scannable with enough time.

I am talking 20 minutes.

One probe to find a player and put you on the same grid. (random 100 ~ 200km distance from them)
Another probe that can find a player with a slow moving probe that basically explodes and decloaks them.
Wrath of Khan "The thing has to have a tail pipe"
PS - can only use a covert OPS to find the cloaky ship.


IF someone is truly AFK they can be found. if not well the chances would be almost 0.


So you want a mechanic to kill AFK players... but only afk players who aren't you (as the cloakies can't kill you when you're AFK sitting in your hulk at your pos, or docked in a station).

Nah, sorry mate.