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AFK Cloaking is botting.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-06-26 23:06:28 UTC
Captain PewPew wrote:
To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.

Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.

Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.


Then its only fair, that AFK cloakers get a % cut from the work of your AFK miners and ratters so they can make ISK too.

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#22 - 2012-06-26 23:06:34 UTC
Using drones is botting.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#23 - 2012-06-26 23:07:10 UTC
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#24 - 2012-06-26 23:08:33 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
I can tell you that living in a wh, we have about 30+ scouts from other wh corps/alliances logged off in our wh. This doesn't prevent us from doing anything, even though we know they are there.

There should be no reason why you can't do what you need to do. If they uncloak and tackle you, they aren't afk. If they drop a cyno on you, they aren't afk.

Quit being pussies and play Eve.


/thread

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-06-26 23:08:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Syllviaa wrote:
Captain PewPew wrote:
To get to it, Your presence in EVE is gameplay relevant. You're existence in a system affects flow and control of gameplay.

Being at attendance of your computer is you playing the game. AFK cloaking is a process of botting by allowing your computer to alter gameplay without your actual presence.

Discuss, and I'm mad, no I'm not quitting, I wish I had stuff so give me yours first.


How can it be botting if they aren't running a program that emulates key presses?



well afk cloakers use a typical bot type programs that play a sound to alert the user. Used to play a sound when someone enters local system or when someone is within sight when you are cloaked etc. Bots also use the same for warping off when ratting. In a way, afk cloaking help botting and all those 3rd party hijacking programs.

i am one of those that thinks afk cloaking should be nummed down to limit bots and detect bots easier.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#26 - 2012-06-26 23:10:12 UTC
Fail-troll is horrific comical fail, even by the standards of this forum.

1/10.

Next!

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#27 - 2012-06-26 23:11:25 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
EVERYTHING IS BOTTING

BAN EVERYONE


EVERYONE
Ditra Vorthran
Caldari Imports and Exports
#28 - 2012-06-26 23:15:20 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
Bane Nucleus wrote:
Know what happened the last time someone was afk in my system? Nothing, because he was afk.


Do you want to know what happened the last time someone was afk in my system? I could do nothing, because no one can tell he's afk. There's no such thing as someone who is AFK.

Congrats on losing EVE.


Really?

http://www.evenews24.com/2012/05/29/im-not-afraid-of-that-neut-in-local-razor-titan-down/

They he must be the biggest winner of them all...

"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Pipa Porto
#29 - 2012-06-26 23:16:53 UTC
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#30 - 2012-06-26 23:19:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?

Even then, afk mining wouldn't be so much a problem except that they whine about getting ganked. And then propose stupid ideas to counter ganks.

Edit: edited for accuracy.Big smile
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#31 - 2012-06-26 23:21:40 UTC
omg its a nullbear!

fyi get an alt train him for falcon and rat in joy... perhaps a pve/pvp fit would work...

if the hulks have to tank for death so do you BOI!

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-06-26 23:22:49 UTC
Syllviaa wrote:


How can an afk cloaker affect the environment if he's afk?


Because for all their chest beating and insults slung at high-seccers null-sec players are the biggest carebears ever, won't rat without an empty system, won't mine without 100 friends on batphone, won't enter grid without numerical superiority and capital backup, lets face facts null-sec is full of pussies.

/Flame
Pipa Porto
#33 - 2012-06-26 23:23:55 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?

Even then, afk mining isn't so much a problem except when they whine about getting ganked. And then propose stupid ideas to counter ganks.


Wait, AFK miners do anything other than whining about getting ganked and proposing ridiculous ideas to prevent future ebil violence in HS?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Pipa Porto
#34 - 2012-06-26 23:24:30 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
Syllviaa wrote:


How can an afk cloaker affect the environment if he's afk?


Because for all their chest beating and insults slung at high-seccers null-sec players are the biggest carebears ever, won't rat without an empty system, won't mine without 100 friends on batphone, won't enter grid without numerical superiority and capital backup, lets face facts null-sec is full of pussies.

/Flame


So, what you're saying is, you've never been.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-06-26 23:27:21 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Um... no it isn't.


Botting is using a 3rd party program to mimic human behavior, ie to play the game for you.

AFK cloaking is specifically not playing the game.


Then why do they bother?
  • CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-06-26 23:28:13 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Charles Baker wrote:
Syllviaa wrote:


How can an afk cloaker affect the environment if he's afk?


Because for all their chest beating and insults slung at high-seccers null-sec players are the biggest carebears ever, won't rat without an empty system, won't mine without 100 friends on batphone, won't enter grid without numerical superiority and capital backup, lets face facts null-sec is full of pussies.

/Flame


So, what you're saying is, you've never been.


Been there, done that couln't stand 3-4 hour PoS bashes left after a month. Also stop alt-poasting
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#37 - 2012-06-26 23:29:02 UTC
Sekket wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Um... no it isn't.


Botting is using a 3rd party program to mimic human behavior, ie to play the game for you.

AFK cloaking is specifically not playing the game.


Then why do they bother?

They as in the cloakers?

They get results by doing nothing. Legally too.
Sekket
Perkone
Caldari State
#38 - 2012-06-26 23:29:07 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?


Boredom.
  • CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE
Pipa Porto
#39 - 2012-06-26 23:31:05 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Charles Baker wrote:
Syllviaa wrote:


How can an afk cloaker affect the environment if he's afk?


Because for all their chest beating and insults slung at high-seccers null-sec players are the biggest carebears ever, won't rat without an empty system, won't mine without 100 friends on batphone, won't enter grid without numerical superiority and capital backup, lets face facts null-sec is full of pussies.

/Flame


So, what you're saying is, you've never been.


Been there, done that couln't stand 3-4 hour PoS bashes left after a month. Also stop alt-poasting


I would, but I can't.

Sounds like you were in a terrible alliance.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Pipa Porto
#40 - 2012-06-26 23:31:19 UTC
Sekket wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Ditra Vorthran wrote:
I love it how miners get lambasted for playing the game by afk mining, but oh my god, how dare we touch the sacred cow of afk cloaking...

Engaging the hypocrisy drive! Full burn!


AFK Cloaking is the counter to Local as an Intel channel.

AFK Mining is the counter to...

... Bueller?

... Bueller?


Boredom.


I said Counter, not cause.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto