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Not another high sec miner thread.....Oh yes it is

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Dave Stark
#161 - 2012-06-27 13:07:44 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
because i did, not as fast i hoped i called my drones in and died in one second, did warp on my pod and then died too there was someone else there who distracted me. im not sure if they joined in the fight. possibly his other account.

yeah i know lots of ways, well not lots, a few to avoid it now that its happened. apparantly i should never die in my pod.

so why can you pod high sec anyway, if it shouldnt happen?

and why cant i insure my 100m of implants yet i can insure my ****** cruiser?


it shouldn't happen because you insta-warp in a pod. if you decided not to warp, they decided to pod you.

you were punished for your own sloppy playing, if you honestly want to be hand held through the entire game from start to finish i suggest you re-sub your wow account.
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2012-06-27 13:18:53 UTC
i dont know what peoples fetish with wow is but whatever.

can you answer me this, if it shouldnt happen, why can it happen, because i was a millesecond too slow on warping out?

im not disagreeing with you. i cancelled my sub and moving on to pastures new, my petition is answered, im literally just posting for no reason at all than to debate the topic of basically ganking and podding miners you find in high sec.

of course, you might consider the subscriptions as unimportant in your quest for player v pod environment. thats up to you. my view is that it is a part of this topic.
Tobias Durandal
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#163 - 2012-06-27 13:21:28 UTC
Actually, in the cosmic scheme of things, you were meant to be podded.

THE UNIVERSE IS IN BALANCE.
Dave Stark
#164 - 2012-06-27 13:23:01 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
i dont know what peoples fetish with wow is but whatever.

can you answer me this, if it shouldnt happen, why can it happen, because i was a millesecond too slow on warping out?

im not disagreeing with you. i cancelled my sub and moving on to pastures new, my petition is answered, im literally just posting for no reason at all than to debate the topic of basically ganking and podding miners you find in high sec.

of course, you might consider the subscriptions as unimportant in your quest for player v pod environment. thats up to you. my view is that it is a part of this topic.


because wow provides the whole wrapped in cotton wool thing you so desperately need.

it shouldn't happen because a competent pilot [which you clearly aren't] will warp a pod out before they can be pointed. why can it happen? because it's part of the game, pure and simple. what's to debate? some one wanted to blow your ship up and pod you, so they did.
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2012-06-27 13:26:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
im sure someone can find out how many seconds i had to warp out before my pod died. someone said i had 3 loud sound alerts however long that is.

neither my ship nor my pod lasted long enough to even call it a fight.

if thats the kind of action you want to filter out players, by making them quit because they didnt warp their pod in high sec fast enough then fine. im not going to disagree with you.

thats why im going to find a new game.

i hope you guys have a happy time.

enjoy your miner hate. but more power to salvagers in low sec and null who get **** done for them and cant wipe their own arse.
Dave Stark
#166 - 2012-06-27 13:30:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Dave Stark
Reech Yvormes wrote:
im sure someone can find out how many seconds i had to warp out before my pod died. someone said i had 3 loud sound alerts however long that is.

neither my ship nor my pod lasted long enough to even call it a fight.


those loud sounds are the waring when shield (sound 1) armour(sound 2) and hull(sound 3) drop below a certain threshold.

on that first sound you should have started spamming warp, or at least align. once your ship pops by spamming warp you'd have warped out and saved your implants.

you decided not to, you stat there like a melon, so they probably assumed you were botting and taught you a lesson for cheating.
Alaya Carrier
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#167 - 2012-06-27 13:31:11 UTC
Breezly Brewin wrote:
SadSAD FACE ROFLSad

i love mining, including the chance to be ganked, otherwise it wouldn't have any form of excitement at all.

my only gripe with mining is low sec and nullsec mineral values aren't worth much more than hisec and this really leaves no incentive for hisec miners to leave hisec. currently arkonor while more valuable than veldspar, isn't worth the extra logistics and danger of non-hisec space. bistot and crokite are only marginally better than pyroxeres or scordite. this doesn't make any sense at allSad

there's nothing wrong with being a carebear, unless you demand complete risk free activity in which case eve is not for you so gtfo.


It makes a lot of sense instead.
The more you kill hi sec miners the less hi sec minerals become mined, the more demand makes prices go up.

What you are seeing is actually what happens when hi sec miners are faced with actual risk, while 0.0 miners are not.
If 0.0 miners risked their neck every warp to belt, then you'd see ABC cost 4 times more than scordite and pyroxeres.
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2012-06-27 13:34:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
im sure someone can find out how many seconds i had to warp out before my pod died. someone said i had 3 loud sound alerts however long that is.

neither my ship nor my pod lasted long enough to even call it a fight.


those loud sounds are the waring when shield (sound 1) armour(sound 2) and hull(sound 3) drop below a certain threshold.

on that first sound you should have started spamming warp, or at least align. once your ship pops by spamming warp you'd have warped out and saved your implants.

you decided not to, you stat there like a melon, so they probably assumed you were botting and taught you a lesson for cheating.


lol you are talking about the sounds my ship makes when the shield and armour goes down.

holy **** the fight didnt last that long. i was dead way before that had a chance to even go down. infact i do think i had that alert on my ship, i knew my ship was going to die, pod no.

it was like instant pop are you telling me that my pod has a an alert when the shields go down? yeah i didnt even get the beeping of lock being had
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#169 - 2012-06-27 13:38:36 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:

if thats the kind of action you want to filter out players, by making them quit because they didnt warp their pod in high sec fast enough then fine. im not going to disagree with you.


Do you really think people quit EVE because they get podded? It's part of the game, not something terrible. Ships are replaceable, you are immortal. Buy new clone, new implants, new ships, get back on your feet.

That is why CCP advises players: "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose."

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Dave Stark
#170 - 2012-06-27 13:39:36 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Reech Yvormes wrote:
im sure someone can find out how many seconds i had to warp out before my pod died. someone said i had 3 loud sound alerts however long that is.

neither my ship nor my pod lasted long enough to even call it a fight.


those loud sounds are the waring when shield (sound 1) armour(sound 2) and hull(sound 3) drop below a certain threshold.

on that first sound you should have started spamming warp, or at least align. once your ship pops by spamming warp you'd have warped out and saved your implants.

you decided not to, you stat there like a melon, so they probably assumed you were botting and taught you a lesson for cheating.


lol you are talking about the sounds my ship makes when the shield and armour goes down.

holy **** the fight didnt last that long. i was dead way before that had a chance to even go down.

it was like insta pop are you telling me that my pod has a an alert when the shields go down? yeah i didnt even get the beeping of lock being had


then pay more attention to what's going on, such as new ships appearing on grid (on your overview).

the simple fact is your own ineptitude lead the to the actions that caused you to quit the game. the game, and the players have nothing to do with this. your unwillingness to learn and/or adapt is what is causing you to quit, and hence why wow is the game for you.
Tobias Durandal
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#171 - 2012-06-27 13:40:09 UTC
He's still using dial-up.
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2012-06-27 13:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
who knows, if they do just quit like me. the +4 implants training tempted me for shorter training times, maybe others have been griefed the same way and just ragequit. its a lot easier to ragequit with no attachment.

why do they have griefing restrictions in starter systems, surely they do that for a reason? could it be so people are not put off of buying the game before their trial is over?
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#173 - 2012-06-27 13:43:35 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
who knows, if they do. the +4 implants training tempted me for shorter training times, maybe others have been griefed the same way and just ragequit. its a lot easier to ragequit with no attachment.


You weren't griefed. You were just podded. It's normal in EVE.

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Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#174 - 2012-06-27 13:45:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Reech Yvormes
i guess a month in and in 0.5 is not being griefed then. ccp agree. everyone agrees.

yet after a month i am as compelled to just walk away as if i had been in a starter system or still on my trial.

if i had known people were like this to people starting out. i would never have subbed in the first place.
Dave Stark
#175 - 2012-06-27 13:46:04 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
who knows, if they do just quit like me. the +4 implants training tempted me for shorter training times, maybe others have been griefed the same way and just ragequit. its a lot easier to ragequit with no attachment.

why do they have griefing restrictions in starter systems, surely they do that for a reason? could it be so people are not put off of buying the game before their trial is over?


griefed? haha.

griefing would be podding you every time you undocked. (infact, no that'd again be your own stupidity for not moving your medical clone, but it'd be closer to the real defenition)

yeah they do it in starter systems for players who are still finishing up the tutorial and haven't been exposed to the basics yet. there's a difference between shooting an idiot, and shooting some one who doesn't understand the mechanics of the game.
Breezly Brewin
Vril Metaphysics Society
#176 - 2012-06-27 13:47:15 UTC
Alaya Carrier wrote:
Breezly Brewin wrote:
SadSAD FACE ROFLSad

i love mining, including the chance to be ganked, otherwise it wouldn't have any form of excitement at all.

my only gripe with mining is low sec and nullsec mineral values aren't worth much more than hisec and this really leaves no incentive for hisec miners to leave hisec. currently arkonor while more valuable than veldspar, isn't worth the extra logistics and danger of non-hisec space. bistot and crokite are only marginally better than pyroxeres or scordite. this doesn't make any sense at allSad

there's nothing wrong with being a carebear, unless you demand complete risk free activity in which case eve is not for you so gtfo.


It makes a lot of sense instead.
The more you kill hi sec miners the less hi sec minerals become mined, the more demand makes prices go up.

What you are seeing is actually what happens when hi sec miners are faced with actual risk, while 0.0 miners are not.
If 0.0 miners risked their neck every warp to belt, then you'd see ABC cost 4 times more than scordite and pyroxeres.


good point
Dave Stark
#177 - 2012-06-27 13:47:47 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
i guess a month in and in 0.5 is not being griefed then. ccp agree. everyone agrees.

yet after a month i am as compelled to just walk away as if i had been in a starter system or still on my trial.

if i had known people were like this to people starting out. i would never have subbed in the first place.


you chose to go in to a lower security space, by virtue of you knowing it's a 0.5 security system. then expected to be as safe as a 1.0 system?

can you explain to the good folk here on the eve forum just how many times you were dropped on your head at birth?
Reech Yvormes
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#178 - 2012-06-27 13:48:10 UTC
Dave stark wrote:

griefed? haha.

griefing would be podding you every time you undocked. (infact, no that'd again be your own stupidity for not moving your medical clone, but it'd be closer to the real defenition)

yeah they do it in starter systems for players who are still finishing up the tutorial and haven't been exposed to the basics yet. there's a difference between shooting an idiot, and shooting some one who doesn't understand the mechanics of the game.


i cal it grief because i have seen the guy on other griefing lists so he obviously does this a lot.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#179 - 2012-06-27 13:50:08 UTC
Reech Yvormes wrote:
i guess a month in and in 0.5 is not being griefed then. ccp agree. everyone agrees.

yet after a month i am as compelled to just walk away as if i had been in a starter system or still on my trial.

if i had known people were like this to people starting out. i would never have subbed in the first place.


EVE players like the fact that this game is not too easy and forgiving. You always have something at stake, adding a lot of value to the gaming experience. Risk feels like taking a risk.

You don't have to mine in hisec after a month. You could be a billionaire already.

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Breezly Brewin
Vril Metaphysics Society
#180 - 2012-06-27 13:50:25 UTC
i hope he's reading this forum if i knew who it was i'd link it to him