EVE General Discussion

It could have been worse, the thread could have been infested by goons... oh wait.

Anyway. Totally agreed. As I posted earlier I think that's important to stop this practice.

Actually it is, you just need to learn how to utilise it.

Which becomes an issue when "said history" is a Goonswarm fabrication for a campaign for harrassment that has in the past completely swept beyond these forums into the realm of RL cyber-stalking and poison pen letters to employers. Let me be totally blunt to you Mara Tessidar. Your alliance mates made up the nonsense you are happily posting. As far as I know nobody in Eve has roleplayed a "spacehooker" and you continuing to peddle a clumsy lie just seems like desperate attempted bluster every time you end up losing a debate or argument on these forums.

Sometimes you just need to stop and think about what you are posting rather than blindly echoing the things posted on your alliance wiki. Posting RL pictues of eve players there and accusing them of child abuse and pedophilia might well be an accepted practise on Something Awful forums but continually attempting to smear the RL reputations of eve players is not something these forums should be a party to.

At this point you are the problem Mara Tessidar. And you are exactly the sort of person whose behaviour needs moderating on Eve online forums if the environment is to be improved for everyone.

I'm going to just second this. I wouldn't be surprised if I've got a few of my posts which have been edited (since I've posted a lot, and I'm not trying to **** up everyone's backside by being mr politically correct), but I have no idea since I don't go back and read my own posts to see if I've "broken any ISD rules".

It would probably help if the ISD moderation involves stealth-editing, that there's a way for us to see that at a glance. Or some way of being notified.

I would like to see a more structured rule system rather than the very vague ones used now.

A post that mutates into another for a few pages is not necessarily off topic but just a different tangent people feel needs to be discussed.

As to the rumor rule a clarification as to this would be great. Does it cover any rumor at all or just rumors about CCP its self.
I ask this as the entire crap posting CSM interference I ran earlier this year was entirely based on rumors.
If we cannot use any rumors it will be boring and would give an unfair advantage to people who are not members of Goonswarm, in the next CSM election. We would have so many facts to throw against them while they will have very few to throw back. Otherwise all the CSM discussions will be is Goonswarm say something not proven as a fact and next you have 5 posts saying "Rumor ban the Goon". Then what will you do, as the rules in there present form state that rumors are a banable offense. All it will lead to is factual statements of CCP favoring one alliance over the rest of the game or a lot of pissed goons.

Also the moderators will need to be more attentive when closing duplicate threads, as they have already closed threads that were similar but not actually the same on this forum. It may seem a trivial point but when you are arguing for something not exactly the same as another person the threads get badly distorted if they have to be placed in the same thread. And frankly I feel like scum when I usurp someone else's thread(Unintentionally)

I welcome CCP's willingness to discuss these matters even though the fact that some people had to get banned first to show what was wrong was not a good step in the right direction.

A lot of people are still distrusting after last summers atrocities and frankly you cannot blame them. CCP lost a lot of trust and respect in those dark days and while the forums need moderation, a slow increase over time would have been a better way rather than trying to change them all at once.

Please unban those who were banned to get us to this level of communication as a sign of good faith and a willingness to learn from your mistakes. (Although I must say we are not blameless in this)

Thank you again for talking about this and hopefully saving this forum from obscurity.

Edit: And yes I think IBTS should be allowed for penance.

Your very right. Given the number of people who play EvE from the United states and after watching the South Park episode on Terrorism. I wanted to know if the joke about people from the United States was true.
Also a comment Made by Jeremy Clarkson about the matting habits of the people of the United States and vegetables made me want to know more.

Well the result of the election pretty much turned that from a Joke to a Fact. Thanks for taking part in the Study

Oh so yes your allegation of white knighting was a rumor not a fact and as I said above "Rumor Ban Him"

I had a large post I was about to hit enter on, but realized it would just get me banned.
Talking about mystifying 10 hour bans, with no notification, and my subsequent petition that completely evaporated is bannable.

Your crew is out of control, and my worst fears detailed in posts from last week in the CCL recruitment thread have all come to pass.

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I wish there was an Ignore person on forums. And then if a person who is placed on ignore often enough become Auto ignore.
If I loved reading these Auto ignore people, I could click the button, but that would be my choice.

A video by Extra Credits Brought this idea up in a video the was brain storming on how to empower the community to police out the poo posters from mainstream communication in FPS. While allowing those Poo posters to be heard by those people who selected to listen to poo posters.

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/harassment

If something like this could be implemented I think the forums would have a nice rose covered out side look and for those who wanted the hate, garbage, and filth could simply dig down for it.

To get this to work would take a while to build the data points so it would be tough to meta game the mechanic.

First CCL and CCP would be the only ones registering the ignore votes. As time proceeds only those with XXX amount of Valuable Posts would have their ignore votes towards the auto ignore count.
If a scam does pop out, then the mechanism can be reversed by the volunteers if they deem that the auto ignore had been meta gamed, and those who chose to be apart of that unfair play would have their votes of ignore not count towards auto ignore.

To prevent abuse of the Alts posting poo, or temp accounts poo posting, The auto ignore would hit all alts of that account, Accounts have to be a certain age before being allowed into certain sections, this process can be sped up by Valued posts, A post with X amount of likes or non poo replys

This in the end would Make the volunteers life a lot easier and would not block free speech, just remove the mega phone! Allowing those of us who don't want meadow muffins piles in our sandbox, an ability to filter it out.

COAD would be an interesting place to be a test bed.

Just my 2 Cents... as 5000 players press the "Ignore Gevlin" Key on their key board.

Eve forums have new rules aryth.

§ 28b: Once a week any eve account may start a forum thread with up to 100 pages
§ 28c: Once the threads exceeds 100 pages topic starter has to pay a certain amount of LP's to keep it open.
§28d: Calculation formula used is ...


Base thread LP Cost = (Base thread pages)² X (Number of posts + Number of Quotes) X 10 000
LP thread Cost = Base LP Cost X Faction member posts


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