EVE General Discussion

^ I also remember always getting away with it too. So I suppose it looks good for ISD.

Forum rules don't exactly state that I can't post racoon porn either, but it's pretty darned likely that it'll get the heck moderated out of it, if I did.

What makes you so special ?

They've said they interpret killmail posts as trolling, then link some very good explanations as to why and a blue post even tells you that it's their job to interpret the rules. (They being the ISD CCL).

Cut them some slack and stop bad posting; it's a lot better here when people are talking about the game and not whining at the help.

Do you really not think that asking CCP to *LIST ALL THE RULES* and every possible connotation is ridiculous ?
Pro-tip: It is.

If you force them down this line, do you not think that might lead to the so-called censorship that people keep blattering about ?
Pro-tip: It will and people will blame the likes of you for it.

Before you ask, no I'm not mad. I've been around for a while, I lurk more then I post (obviously) and all I see is ISD people being helpful in game, in the forums and in EVE Radio.

You just totally undermined your own argument; right there.

Did I mention images or ascii art ? No; I did not.

But you assumed intent and hurt, you interpreted my post and quoted forum rules at me; to make what I said *wrong*.

So likewise to the ones who post killmails, maybe they didn't mean any harm but other people assume intent, interpret and quote forum rules to make them look bad.

Like you just did.

You just interpreted a generalised forum rule to prove me wrong, by making it an exact rule; because you assumed I meant something I didn't. You don't know me and you did that, to *prove* your point.

The ISD people apply generalised forum rules, to make this place nice and constructive, and to make things right.
Because they know that people rarely make intentionally hostile posts, but the best way to avoid that is to not have ambiguity.

This thread has fulfilled its purpose. It is about time to unsticky it as it has derailed in such a fashion that hurts the initial message we wanted to bring across. Yes we are still going through the growing pains and yes there is still room to improve, but this has become something else entirely.

The CCL seminar that Navigator mentioned will be held this week with the exact time and date to be announced later.

It's been a year since your started the CCL program. You're well past the time when "growing pains" of this magnitude are acceptable. Trying to bury this thread isn't going to help that.

You're also not answering the question at hand. Why are you allowing ISD Volunteers to create new rules (or, and this is no better, enforce the rules of one subforum on the rest of the forum).


By the way, rushing to claim victory and bury the evidence doesn't work well on the internet.

I want to be a better poster

Maybe I should Apply for ISD

Jim Says wat, I say Lock!

If ISD 40, or whatever his name is, came across as a bit less arrogant it might help.

On a personal level, I have little or no interest in which threads are modified, moved or locked. It is the attitude if the ISDs I find off-putting.

It just seems that the ISD folk are a little drunk on their power right now.

The idea is fine, just the implementation seems a bit off at the moment.

Quote from ISD 40 person "I think this thread has almost gone as far as it can but I'm not quite willing to close it just yet, if you can all get back on topic. This thread is not another "Issues with mining barges" thread, we already had that."

The above quote from ISD 40 is, in my view, an example of his arrogance.

"I'm not quite willing to close it just yet..."

Dear me.

This thread would make an awesome sticky thread, then everyone could read it & see how you have nothing to hide... Oh wait, nevermind.

It's funny how the ISDs keep trying to make up new rules while having no idea how the current forum (or game) mechanics work.

WTB Stcky to prove that CCP isn't trying to bury the fact that their ISD experiment has failed. (Growing Pains this severe after a full year is a sign that you're going to have to suck it up and hire people).

Has it, I thought this thread was to be an ongoing discussion between the player base and the mods if things go sour and was put into place as there wasn't a forum for this type of discussion before.

Are you saying that as far as your (CCP) concerned the discussion is finished ? which goes against why this thread was created in the first place.

Does feel like your trying to bury it.



Tal