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Devalued ISHUKONE Shirt? CCP Marketing Malpractice? [UPDATE]

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#601 - 2012-07-12 20:01:35 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
KrakizBad wrote:
Actually, that honor falls to the OP, who read mountains of meaning where none existed.


CCP disagrees with your nonsensical rambling. CCP already admitted their mistakes. We are still here because although CCP Navigator was kind enough to provide us with a resolution, ambiguity still exists in his answer.
iskflakes
#602 - 2012-07-13 14:47:53 UTC
Still waiting for answers to a few questions.

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Rikula
Doomheim
#603 - 2012-07-15 13:26:55 UTC
Have the items been added yet? I haven't had any redeemable items, but then I'm one of those people with the shirt in a container.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#604 - 2012-07-15 14:08:17 UTC
Rikula wrote:
Have the items been added yet? I haven't had any redeemable items, but then I'm one of those people with the shirt in a container.


Unfortunately, no. =(
iskflakes
#605 - 2012-07-15 16:32:01 UTC
Rikula wrote:
Have the items been added yet? I haven't had any redeemable items, but then I'm one of those people with the shirt in a container.


Yeah, I think we all had dozens of billion isk shirts in containers in space, right? *wink*

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#606 - 2012-07-16 13:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Still waiting. Still so many unanswered questions. =/
iskflakes
#607 - 2012-07-16 21:32:38 UTC
Still waiting for answers to these questions. See previous page(s) for the list of questions.

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nartela
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#608 - 2012-07-17 15:03:15 UTC
a bump for justice
i didnt buy it and i wouldnt cause its that expensive, but i have sympathy.
imagine if they ridistributed all the unique ships that where released as prizes for the alliance tournament.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#609 - 2012-07-18 14:14:44 UTC
Greetings CCP Devs, we hope that you guys are having a fantastic summer break.

Could you kindly provide us with an update on this issue? Also there are so many questions unanswered. We would be greatly appreciated if you could kindly provide us with answers and talk to us before steam-rolling with the changes that might keep many of the affected parties not fully appeased.

iskflakes
#610 - 2012-07-19 04:11:12 UTC
There are still unanswered questions (around page 26).

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#611 - 2012-07-19 10:43:22 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
It's been more than 3 weeks. Could CCP kindly provide us with an update on all our questions before you guys steam-roll everything on the 8th week (around pg. 26).
iskflakes
#612 - 2012-07-19 15:02:26 UTC
Still waiting for answers to questions posed on page 29, this is taking a long time.

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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#613 - 2012-07-20 08:23:39 UTC
Still waiting for the response. Please kindly provide us with answers before steam-rolling the changes. =/
Rer Eirikr
The Scope
#614 - 2012-07-20 16:27:17 UTC
And I suggest you give it a rest about a virtual T-shirt that you bought with real money and figured you could speculate on, even if it was mistakenly placed on the market.
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#615 - 2012-07-20 16:40:33 UTC  |  Edited by: The Antiquarian
Rer Eirikr wrote:
And I suggest you give it a rest about a virtual T-shirt that you bought with real money and figured you could speculate on, even if it was mistakenly placed on the market.


Speculate? I made reasonable assumption that CCP will never reintroduce these items via alternative venues for 1/30th of the market value to the general populous. Usually, a reputable company such as Blizzard, means what they claim when an ingame item is advertised as a "one-time offer." I made a logical assumption that seeing how CCP is one of the most reputable game company in the industry, it would hold similar stance.

And do you guys just not get the important implication here? This is not just about me or hundreds of others crying about the market value lost over these shirts. What CCP decides to do here, determines the effectiveness of the future marketing promotions. It's not like YOU will be paying any extra dollars to CCP since you will generate most of your PLEX via ingame. When CCP decides to launch a future promotion to entice new players or current players to dish out more cash flow for the Company, the effectiveness of the marketing practices diminish if the customers realize that all they need to do is wait for several months and wait for CCP to reintroduce the marketed items for a minuscule effort.
Teinyhr
Ourumur
#616 - 2012-07-21 08:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Teinyhr
EDIT: Herping my derp, don't mind me.
iskflakes
#617 - 2012-07-21 16:48:28 UTC
Is it just me or did we lose a few pages of junk?

If we did, good job whoever deleted it. None of that added to the discussion.

Back on topic, we are still waiting for a few questions to be answered (see page 29).

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#618 - 2012-07-21 17:26:49 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
Rer Eirikr wrote:
And I suggest you give it a rest about a virtual T-shirt that you bought with real money and figured you could speculate on, even if it was mistakenly placed on the market.


Speculate? I made reasonable assumption that CCP will never reintroduce these items via alternative venues for 1/30th of the market value to the general populous. Usually, a reputable company such as Blizzard, means what they claim when an ingame item is advertised as a "one-time offer." I made a logical assumption that seeing how CCP is one of the most reputable game company in the industry, it would hold similar stance.

And do you guys just not get the important implication here? This is not just about me or hundreds of others crying about the market value lost over these shirts. What CCP decides to do here, determines the effectiveness of the future marketing promotions. It's not like YOU will be paying any extra dollars to CCP since you will generate most of your PLEX via ingame. When CCP decides to launch a future promotion to entice new players or current players to dish out more cash flow for the Company, the effectiveness of the marketing practices diminish if the customers realize that all they need to do is wait for several months and wait for CCP to reintroduce the marketed items for a minuscule effort.


I have no problem giving CCP money during their promotions because they are a better company and developer than most, including Blizzard. But I won't give CCP a stupid amount of money for a virtual item, not because I sleep poorly at night, fearing that they might re-introduce it at some point. Because my better judgement tells me that it is simply not worth it.

As I don't see CCP ever signing some kind of a exclusivity contract with you when you buy a $230 virtual t-shirt that it really would be yours, you are paying to dress your toon in their property. Nothing else.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Jonas Xiamon
#619 - 2012-07-22 01:16:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonas Xiamon
This isn't the first time CCP's pulled this bullshit, luckily for me I didn't invest real money in this, but I did invest a moderate sum of isk into this item, which I assumed was a collectors item. This is upsetting, I consider myself a small time collector of "rare" items, and when CCP reissues these rare items, it desecrates their value, and it makes me less inclined to participate in one of the aspects of the game I enjoy, collecting.

Edit: Sorry, didn't read the whole thread.

The Antiquarian wrote:

Thank you very much, CCP Spitfire, CCP Navigator, and CCP t0rfifrans.

Oh and as for the Ishukone Sterling Shirt, please don't forget about those investors who also spent billions of ISK to purchase the shirts, prior to the shirt being available via NEX Store.


This please, while I was fortunate enough to get a good deal on the shirt, I worked hard to get that deal, making sure multiple times a day that my buy order was on top, for weeks, until I got the shirt. I would feel quite betrayed if I was left out of what ever reparations are in store.

I usally write one of these and then change it a month later when I reread it and decide it sounds stupid.

Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#620 - 2012-07-22 11:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayeson
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.

In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...


I NEED BI-MONOCLE

Also: please make me feel like more of a space princess wearing my Ishukone shirt :(

Also Also: It became the highest trading item because it is awesome, duh. Ill buy whoever designed it a beer at fanfest X.

Also Also Also: Im stuck at an airport so im going to keep posting random stuff