These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Devalued ISHUKONE Shirt? CCP Marketing Malpractice? [UPDATE]

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Jason Auralis
The Marshall Group
#341 - 2012-06-28 12:05:42 UTC
One is really enough thank you.
http://i.imgur.com/mW5x1.jpg

I would like to see more of just general options. Seriously. The more items that can be baught with aurum means the more items that can be baught with aurum to be sold for isk. A big problem with devaluation is simply because these items arent consummed like plex. Eventually everyone who is going to consume one buys it up so it turns into a flooded market.

"Could I request that ISD please lock my shirt into my trousers?" - Lilliana Stelles 2012.06.25 Never forget.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#342 - 2012-06-28 12:07:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Mr Kidd wrote:
In the example of the Isukone Scorp.....functionally identical doesn't exactly convey identical characteristics. All BS's are functionally identical. That is to say functionally, they all kill things. How they do it and their efficacy is the real question.
The main problem with the Ishukone Scorp was that, since the NeX was, and still is, in early beta alpha pre-prototype, it would generate items out of thin air and bypass the entire industry…
Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Doomheim
#343 - 2012-06-28 12:17:15 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.

In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...


CCP fashion police. I told you. Here they are. Space supermodels faith is restored.
Obsidian Dagger
Nitrus Nine
#344 - 2012-06-28 12:17:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
In the example of the Isukone Scorp.....functionally identical doesn't exactly convey identical characteristics. All BS's are functionally identical. That is to say functionally, they all kill things. How they do it and their efficacy is the real question.
The main problem with the Ishukone Scorp was that, since the NeX was, and still is, in early beta alpha pre-prototype, it would generate items out of thin air and bypass the entire industry…


This was the main problem as I saw it back then. The only 'safe' way to do it would be to trade in an existing normal scorpion plus aurum to get the ishukone scorpion - that way the industrialists wouldn't be screwed out of the game.


Of course, pretty soon it wont matter since there wont BE any industrialists (outside of 0.0 anyway) so buying a ship out of thin air for aurim could become the ONLY way to get a scorpion of any kind.
DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#345 - 2012-06-28 12:19:57 UTC
Obsidian Dagger wrote:


Of course, pretty soon it wont matter since there wont BE any industrialists (outside of 0.0 anyway) so buying a ship out of thin air for aurim could become the ONLY way to get a scorpion of any kind.



Wait, did I miss something?

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera
Doomheim
#346 - 2012-06-28 12:22:04 UTC
Obsidian Dagger wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
In the example of the Isukone Scorp.....functionally identical doesn't exactly convey identical characteristics. All BS's are functionally identical. That is to say functionally, they all kill things. How they do it and their efficacy is the real question.
The main problem with the Ishukone Scorp was that, since the NeX was, and still is, in early beta alpha pre-prototype, it would generate items out of thin air and bypass the entire industry…


This was the main problem as I saw it back then. The only 'safe' way to do it would be to trade in an existing normal scorpion plus aurum to get the ishukone scorpion - that way the industrialists wouldn't be screwed out of the game.


Of course, pretty soon it wont matter since there wont BE any industrialists (outside of 0.0 anyway) so buying a ship out of thin air for aurim could become the ONLY way to get a scorpion of any kind.


Maybe Mechwarrior Online.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#347 - 2012-06-28 12:37:08 UTC
Har Harrison wrote:
CCP Spitfire wrote:
DeBingJos wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:

In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...

Lol Bi-monocles you say? You might as well give them a radical new name like 'glasses'! Big smile


I believe the correct scientific term is 'binoculars'. Pirate

Bifocals ???


Beer goggles, I'm working on a version for the forums, they make even posts by people like NIckyYo enjoyable.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Alaura Aquila
Sarz'na Khumatari
#348 - 2012-06-28 12:43:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alaura Aquila
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.

In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...


Will the shirts we bought for 500 Aur be deleted after the "fix"?
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#349 - 2012-06-28 13:07:22 UTC
Perhaps the best solution would be to have a slightly modified version for those who bought the AUR version of the shirt, or would people prefer getting the AUR refunded. Maybe add a new color/version and refund so people have the option to rebuy the new version of the shirt. I wouldn't mind this at all and people can get both versions much like the two Quafe shirts.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#350 - 2012-06-28 13:08:21 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:


In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...



Since you've asked for opinions on this, here's mine:

You shouldn't sell bi-monocles. You also shouldn't be selling mono-monocles, shirts, jackets, trouser, boots or anything else in your shop.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#351 - 2012-06-28 13:30:24 UTC
Never trust in the NEX store. And by the way, you should have taken the jeans.

GREED IS GOOD

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
Denaris Aschanna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#352 - 2012-06-28 13:47:39 UTC
Dammit! I missed it, I've been after one of those shirts for ages, and now they're out of the NeX the prices have shot up to 300M+.. some people are gonna profit from this, and good for them!

Just wish I hadn't been away the past few days, and managed to snag one before they were withdrawn from sale.

I'll be interested to see what CCP come up with to appease everybody, but I'm certainly not paying out 300M for one.
Othran
Route One
#353 - 2012-06-28 14:06:02 UTC
I'd like to thank the OP as right now I'm having to deal with a fuckwit who works for the evil empire and is laughingly called a "Support Operative".

I needed a bloody good laugh and this thread delivers Lol
Atrocitus Parallax
Doomheim
#354 - 2012-06-28 14:07:17 UTC
No wonder CCP is wary of clothing changes!

You can come for our ships, you can come for our guns, you can take our resources, you can take our homes, but you will never, NEVAAA take our T-shirts RAWR!!!!!

Maybe a deep breath and a relaxer are due, followed by thanking CCP for new items, and also or saying they are addressing the issue.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#355 - 2012-06-28 14:08:00 UTC
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
Update: The ishukone shirt did go out accidentally. Meaning the person picking items for the offers ( me ) wasn't aware of it having been used in a PLEX promotion. Bad bad Torfi. Now that it is out and there is an issue with people that had the shirt prior as a coveted rare collectors item, we have suspended sales on the ishukone shirt while we formulate a plan that's as fair to as many as possible. Expect an update later today on the issue. It's interesting thought that it became the most popular and traded item of the new clothes we put out in Inferno 1.1.

I'm glad you removed the Women's Executor Coat (red/gold) that was seeded in the NeX as well. Maybe the easiest fix is to do a similar rollback as you did when you wiped random collectibles a few months ago. Anything that was seeded before 1.1 remains as it is, anything that was bought from NeX after 1.1 is swapped for a different colour version that is re-added to the NeX. The (green/gold) version of the women's executor coat would work well. As for the Ishukone shirt, no idea what a suitable replacement would be.

How to win EVE
Pierre Echerie
Horseshoe Industries
#356 - 2012-06-28 14:25:23 UTC
Mashie Saldana wrote:
[quote=CCP t0rfifrans]... Anything that was seeded before 1.1 remains as it is, anything that was bought from NeX after 1.1 is swapped for a different colour version that is re-added to the NeX. The (green/gold) version of the women's executor coat would work well. As for the Ishukone shirt, no idea what a suitable replacement would be.


Might be nice, so long as they don't mess it up again, like swapping the Ishukone for green/gold female Executor, or replacing male red/gold esquire with green :) That would've been just RICH Lol
Dheeradj Esil
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#357 - 2012-06-28 14:28:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dheeradj Esil
Mashie Saldana wrote:
As for the Ishukone shirt, no idea what a suitable replacement would be.



Why, a Kaalakiota shirt of course.

Actually, scratch that, I want Templis Dragonaurs shirt.....

By the same logic, training skills is botting, as it gives an advantage to your character without you being at the keyboard.

-Abdiel Kavash
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#358 - 2012-06-28 14:57:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain IQ
Now that's weird, Antiquarian hasn't posted for two pages now, I hope he's ok....

Quick someone flame him and wake him up again.
CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#359 - 2012-06-28 15:20:01 UTC
Virgil Travis wrote:
CCP t0rfifrans wrote:
In other news, do you think we should sell bi-monocles? An item that's essentially two monocles, one for each eye, costing as much as two monocles? I just think there's a tiny portion of players that might find it amusing to wear those. A vulgar display of, something...


I want a Loppy Frog cod piece please. If you thought those shirts sold fast, trust me, these will be even bigger sellers.

The problem is that it wouldn't show in your portrait. We'd have to make changes to the camera code to allow for non-facial portraits.
CCP t0rfifrans
C C P
C C P Alliance
#360 - 2012-06-28 15:20:25 UTC
Alaura Aquila wrote:

Will the shirts we bought for 500 Aur be deleted after the "fix"?

Nope!