EVE General Discussion

Given the topic of the thread, I lol'd at "some people lost their shirt."

How? The market went way up in speculation and once the patch was actually released the price went DOWN again. You make LESS from mining AGAIN. And thats WITH hulkagoondouche running 23.5/7. I was making way more money hisec mining before the "fix". And when I say before i mean not anymore because it blows again (profit).

Veld and scord are up a bit since then, but were already up amost 100% prior to the fix.

No, he is hiding something vital from us. Something that might explain his relentless raging: he put all his PLEXes into the cargohold of his noobship, forgot he was in low sec, undocked and got ganked.

So, while he in theory got 13x game time from his purchase, in reality he only ended up with the shirt for his hard earned $260...

Why am I not seeing these items in the NeX store?

I'm not seeing them in the Noble Exchange either.

I may be premature here but I think I will congratulate The Antiquarian for having the fortitude to stick to his guns long enough to get CCP to see the error of their ways and pull the contentious items from the NeX store.

This is where all the naysayers in here start the run on buying up what's left of them in the market. I've already cleaned out the Amarr area so don't bother there.

Mr Epeen

Just to give some positive suggestions, I would recommend the following to CCP:
a. Either:
i) Identify (if possible) all the copies of the shirt (and the red/black women's executor) that existed before the patch, and convert those to some other appropriate item that will henceforth remain special
or
ii) Remove (as they have) the items from the NEX, and destroy with reimbursement all the copies that were created post patch. Destruction is required though, otherwise the value of these items will be seriously reduced
(I favour (i) simply because I suspect it won't annoy people that bought the shirt/executor for cheap price because they wanted to wear it…collectors are probably a little less concerned about appearance and more concerned with rarity - while those who bought them post patch are more concerned with appearance and less with rarity)
b) Declare their intentions clearly regarding future products - eg, will they agree that should this happen in future, they will work to correct it?

And further recommendations for the future (eg, to protect the value of the monocle):
c) Implement market-sellable ship paint jobs in the NEX (or at least some paint jobs). This will allow people to use their aurum on NEX items that are guaranteed to be of interest to many players, and sellable on market, for what their appropriate aurum to isk exchange value is. What this should do is help get spent some of the stockpiled aurum
d) A few months after the above, when ship paint jobs are being sold on market for roughly their true aurum->isk exchange worth, allow transfer of Aurum

By delaying the implementation of aurum until (d), it will help ensure that the value of the monocle does not drop drastically - people will already have a good outlet to cash in their aurum, and a destructible outlet too that means it can be renewed. They won't instantly look to buy the monocle just to sell it for a quick buck.

I think transfer of aurum should be allowed - it's something I want - but not until (d).

Edit: An alternative to (c) would be to simply remove the old items from the NEX store immediately before allowing aurum exchange. On the assumption that they only ever return to the store for their old price, if at all!

Reminds me of the folks who hung at the bank in Britannia exchanging pixels for fake money.

I blame you for me spending two and a half hours digging through old boxes for my Mr Natural comix yesterday. God bless Robert Crumb for giving me something entertaining to do while wasting my youth away being wasted.

Mr Epeen

Yes, how silly of us to have the temerity to voice dissent at an oversight by CCP that devalued some of our items by billions of isk. We should stick to complaining about ship insurance or that plex just went up by 10mil.

Anyway, the whole two threads which people like yourself just couldn't ignore and say, hey that doesn't concern me I might not bother with it, seems to have had an effect. No more ishukone shirt or womens executor coat in the nex.

It's really quite baffling how this happened anyway. Shows the level of ignorance about their own product by people working in CCP. Someone working on their MT store was not aware of the collectors edition boxes, the plex bundle, or even bothered to have a look at the market.

Judging by the CCP’s recent action to remove the two highly controversial items from NEX Store, it shows CCP’s admittance on their mistake to release those two items on the NEX Store in the first place.

Removing those two items is an appropriate first step, but that does not provide any reparation for those who were adversely affected by CCP’s marketing failure. Those who took the “leap of faith” in CCP’s are still disenfranchised by seeing billions of their initial investments on these unique shirts turned to “dust” due to the untold number of those shirts being circulated out into the market, thanks to CCP’s mistake of releasing those items for $0.50 on NEX Store.

Obviously CCP can not take away hundreds of ISHUKONE SPECIAL EDITION SHIRT and WOMEN’S EXECUTOR COAT (RED/GOLD) that were purchased for $0.50 post the recent patch.

CCP needs to make appropriate reparations in forms of another completely unique items to the previous owners of those rare apparels. Those are the only “just” and “equitable” action.