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http://torrentfreak.com/tvshack-the-human-cost-of-extradition-a-mothers-story-110712/

http://www.change.org/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard

normally I'd not bring RL issues into game like this, but this guy needs help, if this goes ahead it's going to set a very dangerous legal precedent, So i'd like to ask anyone and everyone in eve to please sign the petition and help stop this. I'd also be grateful to anyone who also re posts the petition on their fb, twitter etc, please for the love of god HELP!!!!!

IN court, it's headed to the high court far as I know which is one of the last courts avail, after that maybe the supreme court in britain if not the european courts.

Don't worry guys, I got some friends on the inside. I'll smuggle some smokes in and they'll make sure he's protected from the pain train.

WOW... US can pretty much grab a foreign citizen in his own country, bring him, sentence him, jail him... I think US is overpowered and need to be nerfed / re-balanced.

Before anyone says this is BS - remember this:

Other countries can and do recognize US Copyright laws. (aka Berne & UCC conventions) The UK has the authority to approve this individual being tried and convicted in the US. It is the UK that is extraditing him to the US.

I hold some of my own copyrights and don't want people distributing my work just because they feel entitled to. Sorry, I worked my arse off on that material and nobody is entitled for free to it just because they feel they are.

That being said - he shouldn't be extradited. The UK can try and convict him of breaking copyright laws on UK soil and in their own courts. The UK & US are making this into a dog & pony show.

Why do you people think it should be okay for people to steal? Okay, how about helping others steal? He broke the law, he gets to defend himself in a court, and he can pay for his crimes if convicted. If he's not convicted I'm sure the US will be happy to export his ass back to the UK.

Stop with the thinking that there is a free lunch for everyone.

Dumbest thing I read all day. By that same logic US citizens should be brought to Saudi Arabia because they violated Saudi law.


Its is people like you, and those with similar opinions to you, that enable the kind of crap we see every day. And more of it. You should do some reflections on your views.

The point being what he did was not and IS NOT a crime in Britain, if you read the article, his server was based in Britain, he lives in Britain and has NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE OF BRITAIN.
This comes down to jurisdiction based on server location, something which was settled a LONG TIME AGO with regards to online retailers and online sales, if you buy from a US retailer, you are bound by the state law where that retailer is based, if you buy from a British retailer, your bound by British statue retail law (IE sale of goods act, distance selling directive etc) if this goes through it sets a dangerous legal precedent and flips things on their heads, IE you buy from a US retailer, and are based in Britain, the retailer is bound by British statute retail law and if you buy from a British retailer and are based in the states the retailer is bound by US state law, even when its something like a digital download etc?

Regardless what is being done is just plain WRONG and to put it another way, if in the states you choose to invoke your first amendment right and post on a US server you own, "fcuk china you inbred c**ts, I hope your ruling party goes down in flames" (and please note i'm just using this as a example and don't mean the sentiment etc) and you have a domain with a Chinese based domain company, should china be able to extradite you to mainland china for breaking one of their laws based on censorship to do with things expressed about their government, even though you've NEVER left the states in your entire life, your server is based in the states and what you've done is legal where you've used your first amendment right?



actually blame corrupt corporate America for this, it went to court and they didn't get their way, so they bribe(sorry lobby) the US government into pulling this s**t, equally blame the US government for bending over for them, and then the British government for bending over for the US government.

and the petitions a way for trying to force the British government to actually do what they should have done in the first place and said NO, regardless bar the US and British governments all agree whats happening and besides saying "wtf??" are all agreeing what is happening is just plain WRONG.

and for people that have signed the petition, THANK YOU.

funnily enough petitions were one of the reasons for sopa/pipa got withdraw....