Skill Discussions

So I'm not exactly "new" but thi was the only Q&A forum I could find so here goes.

I want to get into an Archon but I'm not quite sure what skills I'm going to need. Obviously all the armor skills for Tech 2 mods and Cap skills to V. and fighters. But what other skills are useful that aren't already in the required skills for Repair Modules, Fighters, Armor Hardeners and the Ship itself.

In all honosty, with these kind of questions, I'd say you aren't ready. Try to read up what roles a carrier fill and what you need. Ask around in your alliance for tips, tricks and fits.

I have over a hundred days of training for the carrier, I plan to read up ask questions and get information during that time. The whole point of this thread was to get a basic question asked so I can start making a skill plan which will probably be 250+ days once I factor in all the skills needed. No at this point I'm not even near ready, but instead of passing judgment so quickly you could at least try to answer my question so maybe in that 250 days I will be ready.....but then again this is EVE, I should be used to people like you by now.

If you won't answer a simple question then stay out of the thread, your posts add nothing to the question asked. Welcome to the ignore list.

Yeah I knew that they weren't DPS boats from the Rooks and Kings videos I've seen. As far as I know its the supercaps that are the DPS carriers.

I was thinking something like

{Highs}
Remote armor repper
Remote armor repper
Energy neutralizer
Energy neutralizer/smartbomb
Triage Module

{Mids}
Cap rechargers
Sensor Booster with resolution script

{Lows}
Hardeners
DCU
Local Armor repper

Its a little rough at this point but then again I just started looking up cap ships.

I recommend taking those 250 days to train for a better attitude. You'll need a lot of good friends before you can fly a cap more than once without losing it.

If you are in a carrier, there hopefully is another carrier with you, so don't bring only one fit.

Bring extra modules for max resists, a cyno, etc. Capital modules are pretty big though, so you can only fit one in the corp hangar, and at the expense of stront.

Two carriers can also alternate siege. You might want to watch:
[VIDEO/DOCU] The Clarion Call - Triage Special
[VIDEO/DOCU] Clarion Call 2: Pantheon
[VIDEO] Clarion Call 3 (released)

And having a smartbomb battleship in the hangar is more handy than fitting a single smartbomb, though carrying a bunch of smartbombs for another battleship to refit is cheaper.

Extra modules: cap rechargers, cap power relays, DCU, hi-slot auto-targeter (give 3 more targets, even when not active), etc.

Oh, and you will want skills for boosters.

Yeah multiple fits is a must I remember the clarion call 3 where they changed fits depending on which carrier is being primaried.

I also want to say thank you for being one of only 2 people to provide actual information on cap ships. My corp is mainly industrialists so we can get all the minerals to build our own carrier in about 2 days so we do plan to lose.....several in the 'practice' phase. Hopefully though your information should help us learn much faster.




How is putting someone down 'well meaning advice?

Look at Tau he gave me info. links to great videos and actually took time to give me a better understanding. That is well meaning advice. Telling someone 'if you have to ask you aren't ready' is simply smug superiority. Surfin added nothing of value at all, how am I ever going to be ready if I don't ask the basic questions first?

Really its no ones place or right to tell me when I'm ready, I didn't ask for advice I asked for information, anything besides that is off-topic and should be kept out of this thread. I want information so that I can form a better understanding of carriers and decide if its the patb I want to take. I don't care if someone doesn't think I'm 'ready' as I have started, take your 'well meaning advice to someone who asked for it.

And about the attitude, I can be perfectly civil with people who provide actual advice, not just a 'it took me 5 years to do it so obviously you can't do it sooner' without actually providing anything to the discussion.

For what it is worth, I trained for a Chimera because my corp asked me to. The corp bought one for me (I later chose to buy it from the corp when the corp no longer needed it).

We needed a second Chimera to do Sleeper sites (C5). We had lots of Archon pilots, and even used an Archon with large shield transporters (not capital) with our Tengus until I trained for the Chimera.

We lost our first Chimera and Revelation (built in a C2) about 2 years earlier because we were overconfident, and didn't have a clue about using capitals. We learned a lot since then. It was an expensive lesson (I only lost a 2.5b Tengu, laf).

I recommend learning all you can about capitals before undocking in one. Then I recommend the first time you undock in a capital, you do so on the test server SiSi where you can buy them for 100 ISK, and practice stuff like using the jump drive and learning to place cynos so you don't bounce off stations.

Oh, reminds me. I have nearly all the default keyboard shortcuts removed. I mapped ALT J to the jump navigation window, which doesn't have a default shortcut. Also note that you must have the starmap unflattened to see a sphere of your jump drive range superimposed over the starmap.

Cyno alt training:
* Cyno on a Rooky ship?
* Cyno Alts (also see plan in post #10... heck, read the whole thread)
You can also get jumpclones for your neutral cyno alts from EACS.

That's what I mean. Capital pilots should know you never use 1 fit. You use multiple fits on your carrier so you can change your fit instantly.

And sure RnK are great example of how you should use your carrier, but that wasn't completed in 250 days.