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Am I missing something?

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Epicus Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-06-24 23:14:01 UTC
The skill development system is utterly infuriating.

Why can this not be actively sped up via in game grinding? It doesn't even have to be to a considerable extent! Just something to encourage me to log in other than waiting for a skill queue to finish.

As of this moment the activities I can perform are limited and frankly dull. I am fine with new players not being given all of the game at once, but at least let us work towards our character development it in a more meaningful way than the accumulation of ISK. It just feels so unrewarding!

In the last 24 hours I have logged in 3 times, stared at my ship in port, and wondered what I can go do (before logging immediately). Of all the activities that actually would interest me, PVP rates the highest, preferably with groups.

5 Corp applications with a "lol 300k sp rejection" later, a 3 day waiting list for eve uni with me eventually being skipped for processing due to some admin error and bang, I get an invite to a dead corp who's leader tells me he won't help/cooperate with me for a few weeks because he "doesn't trust low level "alts"" (nice guy btw, just claimed to have been messed about).

Where is the Eve equivalent of battlegrounds? Yah, fine, its a sandbox. Thats great, i'm sure the older players have great fun destroying "noobs" who autopilot into gate camps. Its not exactly fun for new players though is it? And the stream of &(%*£"%!'s telling me to quit crying because of the learning curve is beyond belief, the game isn't so difficult. I am having zero issues with difficulty due to the wonderful rookie chat combined with a decent tutorial.

Please suggest a fix to my plight >< I want to enjoy the game again. Where do any of the other new players here find the moti

*I mentioned this in the in-game channel and was rightfully called a troll, I should not have said this in rookie chat and apologize, it belonged on the forum. (to any that remember/saw)*
Gaellia Bonaventure
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-24 23:16:16 UTC
Game mechanic is working as intended.

No. Trust me on this one.

Bring your possibles.

Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-06-24 23:17:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Join RvB and fly a tackler for one of their sides. Leave when you've had enough pvp fun. There is your battleground.

I was like you when i joined, I thought that im going to have "fun" and "play for real" once skill x, y and z finishes.
A couple months later and i was in the same situation again, its an endless cycle, im tellin' ya!

Just find something in eve that you actually like doing(gaining isk on the side is even better) and just keep doing it, don't pay this much attention to the skill queue. Think of skill training as getting bonuses to stuff you can already do and not "must have xyz before i can do this".


I say all that but currently im just logging in to change skills, but thats due to my hardware failing and me missing a mouse....
Epicus Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-24 23:18:57 UTC
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:
Game mechanic is working as intended.

No. Trust me on this one.


Depressing.

Bah, I know i'm new, and that you guys who have been here forever wont appreciate a jumped up new player shouting his mouth off about mechanics that developed over the years...

I just want the game to be more involving for me. I don't understand why I am finding its pacing so off at this early early stage.
Epicus Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-06-24 23:20:09 UTC
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:
Game mechanic is working as intended.

No. Trust me on this one.


Depressing.

Bah, I know i'm new, and that you guys who have been here forever wont appreciate a jumped up new player shouting his mouth off about mechanics that developed over the years...

I just want the game to be more involving for me. I don't understand why I am finding its pacing so off at this early early stage.


Also, I don't mean "MAEK IT WOW". Or worse, "more accessible", just a more rewarding sense of progression.
Gaellia Bonaventure
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-24 23:22:21 UTC
I understand your frustration, really I do. But it's a pretty crazy game the way they have it laid out but I think that's what makes it so special. Smile

Bring your possibles.

Russell Casey
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-24 23:24:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Russell Casey
There's plenty of PvP corps that don't have SP requirements. Don't just rely on the recruitment channel/forum. Go out and actually look some corps up like you would for a real job, do your homework, see which ones are willing and able to take and train newbies, then pick one that wants you for something besides income and fodder.

Also, a character a few days old can participate in just about every PvE or PvP activity in some way.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2012-06-24 23:24:58 UTC
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Why can this not be actively sped up via in game grinding?
Because they want you to play the game instead.
Epicus Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-06-24 23:25:48 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Why can this not be actively sped up via in game grinding?
Because they want you to play the game instead.


By setting a queue and logging out?

If I play 24/7 it won't make a difference.
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#10 - 2012-06-24 23:25:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ursula Thrace
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Also, I don't mean "MAEK IT WOW". Or worse, "more accessible", just a more rewarding sense of progression.


it sounds like you simply lack the patience for eve. maybe try another game?
Eternal Error
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-06-24 23:30:20 UTC
Welcome to eve. If they ever change this mechanic, myself and a large portion of the population will unsub the same day.

Be happy you decided to start after the removal of learning skills.
Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
#12 - 2012-06-24 23:31:39 UTC
Grinding is an arcane game system that needs to be stabbed with a fork until its dead.
If you think you need x number of skill points to compete then 'you are doing it wrong'.
Epicus Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-06-24 23:31:58 UTC
Ursula Thrace wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Also, I don't mean "MAEK IT WOW". Or worse, "more accessible", just a more rewarding sense of progression.


it sounds like you simply lack the patience for eve. maybe try another game?


In all honesty how many of the 30/40k people online at the moment are new? I play paradox games like HOI, EU3 etc... My Idea of an RPG is Planescape Torment. If I am infuriated by the lack of interactivity then I have no idea who the target audience of the trials is.
Dave stark
#14 - 2012-06-24 23:32:27 UTC
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Why can this not be actively sped up via in game grinding?
Because they want you to play the game instead.


By setting a queue and logging out?

If I play 24/7 it won't make a difference.


yes it will.

it's all well and good having spent the last year logging in to adjust your skill queue and now you can fly a carrier but 100k isk isn't going to buy you an archon.
Epicus Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-06-24 23:33:31 UTC
Terranid Meester wrote:
Grinding is an arcane game system that needs to be stabbed with a fork until its dead.
If you think you need x number of skill points to compete then 'you are doing it wrong'.


Possibly! I am new, is PVP possible at 300k sp, I am in a Catalyst with 8 Blaster turrets and level 2 class armor upgrades.
Epicus Aideron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-06-24 23:34:28 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Why can this not be actively sped up via in game grinding?
Because they want you to play the game instead.


By setting a queue and logging out?

If I play 24/7 it won't make a difference.


yes it will.

it's all well and good having spent the last year logging in to adjust your skill queue and now you can fly a carrier but 100k isk isn't going to buy you an archon.


Possibly why they have plex?
Dave stark
#17 - 2012-06-24 23:36:47 UTC
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Why can this not be actively sped up via in game grinding?
Because they want you to play the game instead.


By setting a queue and logging out?

If I play 24/7 it won't make a difference.


yes it will.

it's all well and good having spent the last year logging in to adjust your skill queue and now you can fly a carrier but 100k isk isn't going to buy you an archon.


Possibly why they have plex?


if you're just going to not log in for a year, then plex a carrier two things will happen.

A) you'll lose it because you have no idea how the game works because you haven't actually played it.
B) why the hell are you doing it to begin with? you may as well go and spend that money on something else and enjoy it instead of giving it to CCP and not bothering to play the game you're paying for.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-06-24 23:37:14 UTC
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Epicus Aideron wrote:
Why can this not be actively sped up via in game grinding?
Because they want you to play the game instead.


By setting a queue and logging out?

If I play 24/7 it won't make a difference.


yes it will.

it's all well and good having spent the last year logging in to adjust your skill queue and now you can fly a carrier but 100k isk isn't going to buy you an archon.


Possibly why they have plex?


So you would learn that even if you have the skills and shinies you will still lose the said shinies by lacking game experience.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#19 - 2012-06-24 23:37:35 UTC
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:
Game mechanic is working as intended.

No. Trust me on this one.


Talk to Goons they can sell you a implant that will speed things up

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Dave stark
#20 - 2012-06-24 23:38:36 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Gaellia Bonaventure wrote:
Game mechanic is working as intended.

No. Trust me on this one.


Talk to Goons they can sell you a implant that will speed things up


they can sell you a whole set.

plus replacements.

and a set for your jump clone(s).
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