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Edenfalls
Bad Robot Trading Company
#1 - 2012-06-22 19:17:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Edenfalls
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Ilyk Halibut
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-06-22 19:55:31 UTC
This guy is being super sketch. When I left a tip that it'd be helpful if some details were shared in the thread, he replied with some vague nonsense, and threatened to delete my reply if it wasn't about the job. He looks to have figured out that he can't any sooner delete my reply than I could his, and closed up shop in the old thread, moved to this one.

Here's the old reply:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1517673#post1517673

My warnings still apply, though, he has now shown even more sketchness, so be careful if you do business with him.

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Edenfalls
Bad Robot Trading Company
#3 - 2012-06-22 20:20:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Edenfalls
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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#4 - 2012-06-22 20:26:47 UTC
Edenfalls wrote:
I'm needing the assistance of a web developer with experience using Ajax, / jquery php and mysql.

This is a short project that shouldn't take an experienced developer more then a couple of hours to complete, however the work could open up to new projects if the developer wishes to continue.

Please contact me for project details, concept for the project will be discussed with the developer on team speak.

Budget for project will be negotiated with the selected developer.



Contact me if you have any questions or wish to bid for the work.


The only way you could know that it takes only "a couple of hours" is if you know how to do it yourself. But because you are hiring somebody, I'm gonna assume you don't know how to do it, less alone how much it would take. So what's gonna happen when your employee finds an unforeseen obstacle (php instalation doesn't have curl, mysql not compatible with your raid array, etc) and "a couple of hours" end up being 2 weeks? Are you prepared to pay the developer's rate for 2 weeks of troubleshooting?

A usual rate for such a short project in such a short notice is like $150 an hour (being kind). $150 x 80 hours = $12,000.00 USD. Do you have the dow? Because if you only have funds to pay "a couple of hours" and your developer ends up working 2 weeks... is he gonna work for free?


"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

Edenfalls
Bad Robot Trading Company
#5 - 2012-06-22 20:27:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Edenfalls
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Desmont McCallock
#6 - 2012-06-22 20:28:19 UTC
ouuuuuu and now a GM will come by and wave his 'banhammer' over Ilyk. My feet are shaking that he doesn't report me to (as I also posted in this thread).

Seriously now Edenfalls, your posts sounds more like a scam than a job offer.
Edenfalls
Bad Robot Trading Company
#7 - 2012-06-22 20:31:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Edenfalls
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Edenfalls
Bad Robot Trading Company
#8 - 2012-06-22 20:32:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Edenfalls
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Desmont McCallock
#9 - 2012-06-22 20:36:06 UTC
Just post more details on the job offer and stop being cryptic.
Ilyk Halibut
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-06-22 20:40:27 UTC
I did check your post history, and there was some badgering of some sort going on here with the BTS guy:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1211347#post1211347

I'm sure there are two sides of the story, but that does look kind of harassy. Your frequent character trading (this obviously is an alt you're posting from) is also kind of unnerving when we're talking about paying large sums of isk for services.

And really, I'm not trolling. Trolling would be me calling your mother names. This is my pointing out a potentially bad deal, which is perfectly reasonable. I can understand why you'd take offense to such a thing, but you can diffuse this by providing more details, and being open as to what you're trying to do. Also, what Shameless Avenger said:
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The only way you could know that it takes only "a couple of hours" is if you know how to do it yourself. But because you are hiring somebody, I'm gonna assume you don't know how to do it, less alone how much it would take

These are perfectly valid concerns that you have opened yourself up to by posting on here. We mean no offense to you personally, but, I do feel some responsibility in warning fellow developers. I've been screwed before, and I hate for there to be unnecessary screwing.

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Edenfalls
Bad Robot Trading Company
#11 - 2012-06-22 20:40:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Edenfalls
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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#12 - 2012-06-22 20:41:31 UTC
Preparing invoice :D

1) Install teamspeak... 15 minutes.... $37.50
2) Translating broken English into readable English...30 minutes... $75.00
3) Talking about the project on TS... 2 hours... $300.00

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"

Ilyk Halibut
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-06-22 20:46:38 UTC
Aaaand he edits all his posts out again.

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Shameless Avenger
Can Preachers of Kador
#14 - 2012-06-22 20:47:14 UTC
Ilyk Halibut wrote:
... paying large sums of isk for services....


Say wut? Paying with ISKIES? Last time I check ISKies were not good for O'Reily books, computer equipment, internet connection fee, energy bill, etc etc etc.

However... at a conversion rate of 950M ISK per $35.00 USD... 2 weeks should be like 325 Billion ISK. Just so you know.

"This is the Ninja. He will scan you down; he will salvage your wrecks and there shall be no aggro"