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Abaddon or apoc?
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Hernan Johuihen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-21 18:44:07 UTC
well, wich is better for PVP , i know abaddon is great in fleets, but apoc is cheaper , and require less skills to use it at 100%. i cant decide by my own so tell me your thougths.
Cpt Arareb
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-21 19:12:46 UTC
apoc solo ..hmm maibe as a instapop frigate killer .. my choice goes to the abaddon fantastic tank and good firepower ..be sure to have your cap skills pretty high and always use a heavy cap booster
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-06-21 20:27:43 UTC
If you want cheap & efficient in fleets, go for a Gankageddon. 7 pulses, 3 hs and some whatevers. Prepare to be called primary.
Alara IonStorm
#4 - 2012-06-21 20:35:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
If you want cheap & efficient in fleets, go for a Gankageddon. 7 pulses, 3 hs and some whatevers. Prepare to be called primary.

This really.

The Armageddon described in the most accurate terms is a beating stick with good reach. With either much more damage or more tank then the Apoc for 60% the Hull Cost. 8 lows makes for a hell of a good mix. The 125m3 Drone Bay allows for Heavier DPS or utility and it has a possible Heavy Neut Slot.

The thing is great even if you don't take the excellent cost into account.
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#5 - 2012-06-22 00:36:30 UTC
Geddon hands down.

A fairly standard fit will get me 1144 DPS and 115k EHP

Price makes it an easy choice imo.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#6 - 2012-06-22 07:59:10 UTC
Well, the Geddon is frankly a good shout.


[Armageddon, Drop Geddon]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
[empty high slot]

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Berserker II x5

Silly deeps and good EHP, change mids as needed.

The Abaddon is mainly workable as a Station ganker, something like dis.


[Abaddon, Station Ganks]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Conflagration L

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I


Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5

(USE FOR STATION GANKING/CAMPING ONLY DUE TO LACK OF PROP MOD)


Apoc is more of a fleet BS, overall, I would say the Geddon.
Cfiloruz Xilocient
Not Quite So Sinister
Shadow Empire.
#7 - 2012-07-02 11:54:52 UTC
have you looked at the ships... i mean... really... with open eyes like really looked at the ship.

one of them looks like thousands of years of Imperial might is oozing out of it. radiant like a star of awesome. a proud piece of engieneering wonder meeting the art of design.

and then there is a ship with its belly bits missing. so rushing out to the battlefield that it wasn't even finished.