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Goons 4x4ing through the Sandbox - Market Manipulation on a Grand Scale

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Alex Skate
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2161 - 2012-06-23 06:27:43 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Alex Skate wrote:
Most of you are addicted like dirty whores. You(not all) wish you saw trillions in your wallet. Quite commical. SO many of you forget this is a game; Yet, so funny this is not a game to you(not all). It is your life, your breath, what you wake up to and what you go to before you sleep.

You may disagree or agree. One thing is certain: You will continue to play.

When the real world puts pressures and expectations on you with respect to this world, this is your escape or at least a place to waste your time.

Where shall you go? There is no place you can run. There is no place you can hide.



Sorry, I've found eve players running to both ToR and WoT and most of them like it better there than they do here. Mind you, it's the carebears to TOR and the PvPers to WoT, but... yeah, sorry, EvE ain't smack, and even if it was, I can get my fix elsewhere.


You forgot Mechwarrior online where the Goons themselves are going.

Including notable ones

http://mwomercs.com/forums/user/22079-the-mittani/

I hear that if you play Eve, you're literally not allowed to play any other games at all.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2162 - 2012-06-23 06:28:11 UTC
In counter to paint's complaints about pubbies in this thread: goons on the fact they exploited and were then dumb enough to brag about it, getting all their ill gotten gains seized.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6XtOWRCWA
Peter Raptor
Galactic Hawks
#2163 - 2012-06-23 06:29:29 UTC
Alex Skate wrote:
I did forget. Death becomes me.

Also,

What do the developers think of the players that play. When I type that, I do mean, with no disrespect: How do they see the players of this game?

Moreso, What do the developers and support staff think of the players?

Granted, many players do come off as ... well. We play this game. We know.

-J



I can see them split their sides laughing looking at kill boards: "We're really in the money today boys" Pirate


Evelopedia; 

The Amarr Empire, is known for its omnipresent religion  †  
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2164 - 2012-06-23 06:30:02 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:


Wait it used to be "come at be bro" via wardecs then when ppl did it gets mysteriously changed so now its come at me bro in 0.0 lol


http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/I_18fc1e_1960987.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7Ad1AuHriI

Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2165 - 2012-06-23 06:30:12 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
In counter to paint's complaints about pubbies in this thread: goons on the fact they exploited and were then dumb enough to brag about it, getting all their ill gotten gains seized.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6XtOWRCWA



Can someone translate this gibberish? Seriously?
Alex Skate
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2166 - 2012-06-23 06:31:34 UTC
Alex Skate wrote:
corestwo wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Alex Skate wrote:
Most of you are addicted like dirty whores. You(not all) wish you saw trillions in your wallet. Quite commical. SO many of you forget this is a game; Yet, so funny this is not a game to you(not all). It is your life, your breath, what you wake up to and what you go to before you sleep.

You may disagree or agree. One thing is certain: You will continue to play.

When the real world puts pressures and expectations on you with respect to this world, this is your escape or at least a place to waste your time.

Where shall you go? There is no place you can run. There is no place you can hide.



Sorry, I've found eve players running to both ToR and WoT and most of them like it better there than they do here. Mind you, it's the carebears to TOR and the PvPers to WoT, but... yeah, sorry, EvE ain't smack, and even if it was, I can get my fix elsewhere.


You forgot Mechwarrior online where the Goons themselves are going.

Including notable ones

http://mwomercs.com/forums/user/22079-the-mittani/

I hear that if you play Eve, you're literally not allowed to play any other games at all.



To be honest, if i want real pvp and quick: I play Call of Duty. But, this game has the smartest players and brightest. For taht, I do not think I will leave anytime soon.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2167 - 2012-06-23 06:32:04 UTC
Paint wrote:

Can someone translate this gibberish? Seriously?



It says 'Paint, put the crack pipe down.'
Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2168 - 2012-06-23 06:34:32 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Paint wrote:

Can someone translate this gibberish? Seriously?



It says 'Paint, put the crack pipe down.'


No, it says help Cygnet is an idiot and needs medical care. And I am not kidding.
Elecktra Blue
Perkone
Caldari State
#2169 - 2012-06-23 06:35:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Elecktra Blue
Why am I not surprised to see Jade floating around here?

Miniluv Minister
15th Century Portrait
Doomheim
#2170 - 2012-06-23 06:36:33 UTC
Let's all work together to raise the level of discourse
15th Century Portrait
Doomheim
#2171 - 2012-06-23 06:37:04 UTC
Elecktra Blue wrote:
So I'm curious, the people that said they acted upon this "issue" after seeing the document "leak" on twitter, should be in the same boat by CCP's investigative definition. Yes I am talking about Jade Constantine, who admitted to making over 8B after this document leak, and I imagine there are others as well, should they not be under investigation as well? Or is this simply a crusade against those the high-sec population loathe?

Nice try nancy drew
15th Century Portrait
Doomheim
#2172 - 2012-06-23 06:39:53 UTC
I now own this thread.
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2173 - 2012-06-23 06:40:20 UTC
Paint wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
In counter to paint's complaints about pubbies in this thread: goons on the fact they exploited and were then dumb enough to brag about it, getting all their ill gotten gains seized.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6XtOWRCWA



Can someone translate this gibberish? Seriously?



Anyone else have a hard time understanding the first post I made that Paint has a hard time grasping?
Elecktra Blue
Perkone
Caldari State
#2174 - 2012-06-23 06:41:03 UTC
15th Century Portrait wrote:
Elecktra Blue wrote:
So I'm curious, the people that said they acted upon this "issue" after seeing the document "leak" on twitter, should be in the same boat by CCP's investigative definition. Yes I am talking about Jade Constantine, who admitted to making over 8B after this document leak, and I imagine there are others as well, should they not be under investigation as well? Or is this simply a crusade against those the high-sec population loathe?

Nice try nancy drew


Not being Nancy Drew, it is a intelligent question.

Miniluv Minister
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2175 - 2012-06-23 06:41:28 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Eshtir
Elecktra Blue wrote:
So I'm curious, the people that said they acted upon this "issue" after seeing the document "leak" on twitter, should be in the same boat by CCP's investigative definition. Yes I am talking about Jade Constantine, who admitted to making over 8B after this document leak, and I imagine there are others as well, should they not be under investigation as well? Or is this simply a crusade against those the high-sec population loathe?


The only thing you'll get Jade to talk about is that stupid wardec gimick, and how any day now he will finally produce the killmails of a thousand goons killed by his ~elite~ mercs.

But if Jade did profit off fw the same way *snip*, then some over zealous asset confiscation is definitely in order.


Edit: Antisemithism remarks removed. - ISD Eshtir
Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2176 - 2012-06-23 06:41:31 UTC
15th Century Portrait wrote:
I now own this thread.


Ok lets talk about how t2 bpo dwarf this by a factor of over three decimal points.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2177 - 2012-06-23 06:42:06 UTC
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Ituhata Saken wrote:
Dearest Market-Interested Space Tycoons,


At downtime today we made an adjustment to the average price of some items in order to curb a situation whereby the average price of an item could be manipulated in order to create a disparity between the value of an item in Isk and its value in Loyalty Point payouts. There will be additional changes in how this system works in the future. We will be monitoring for attempted manipulation of the LP market and will reverse any proceeds deemed to have been obtained through manipulative means. We are watching you. Don’t be That Guy.



By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch.



Tread lightly Sreegs.

You ****** up, not the players.

The goons put LOTS of time and effort into making that isk. Do not treat them like RMTers.

If you take it back, it'll be the worst mistake CCP ever makes.

This wasn't a market exploit. It was sloppy game mechanic design. And you know it. And you're embarrassed. If you try to save your pride by taking back the isk people have made from this, the party will be over. The sandbox will finally be dead, and you may as well focus on CQ Space Barbies.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

  • Qolde
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#2178 - 2012-06-23 06:42:18 UTC  |  Edited by: corestwo
Elecktra Blue wrote:
So I'm curious, the people that said they acted upon this "issue" after seeing the document "leak" on twitter, should be in the same boat by CCP's investigative definition. Yes I am talking about Jade Constantine, who admitted to making over 8B after this document leak, and I imagine there are others as well, should they not be under investigation as well? Or is this simply a crusade against those the high-sec population loathe?


Aight I'm gonna step in here and say stop being dumb, because all you're doing is letting Jade be smug over making yet another goon look dumb.

Jade, like many other players, profited off of this when our actions got them close enough to Tier 5 that they realized they could get the rest of the way there with a trivial outlay. Tier 5 happened, lots of players, including Jade, bought stuff at a quarter of "base" cost. None of them can be said in any way to have exploited or anything, and in any case the Tier 5 incident happened a week ago, if I recall, long before we approached CCP.

Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:
Elecktra Blue wrote:
So I'm curious, the people that said they acted upon this "issue" after seeing the document "leak" on twitter, should be in the same boat by CCP's investigative definition. Yes I am talking about Jade Constantine, who admitted to making over 8B after this document leak, and I imagine there are others as well, should they not be under investigation as well? Or is this simply a crusade against those the high-sec population loathe?


The only thing you'll get Jade to talk about is that stupid wardec gimick, and how any day now he will finally produce the killmails of a thousand goons killed by his ~elite~ mercs.

But if Jade did profit off fw the same way the Jewbal did, then some over zealous asset confiscation is definitely in order.


This goes for you too.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#2179 - 2012-06-23 06:42:58 UTC
Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote:


The only thing you'll get Jade to talk about is that stupid wardec gimick, and how any day now he will finally produce the killmails of a thousand goons killed by his ~elite~ mercs.

But if Jade did profit off fw the same way the Jewbal did, then some over zealous asset confiscation is definitely in order.



In this, I agree, anyone what admits to having known about this exploit and quickly profited off it, should probably have their **** confiscated.
Paint
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2180 - 2012-06-23 06:43:45 UTC
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
Paint wrote:
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:
In counter to paint's complaints about pubbies in this thread: goons on the fact they exploited and were then dumb enough to brag about it, getting all their ill gotten gains seized.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6XtOWRCWA



Can someone translate this gibberish? Seriously?



Anyone else have a hard time understanding the first post I made that Paint has a hard time grasping?



No, look everyone understands the problem except you. Blame your parents. You appear genetically incapable of anything beyond counting fingers and toes.