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Im wasting my time being caldari?

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Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#41 - 2012-06-22 13:27:02 UTC
Grey Azorria wrote:
To be fair, the Incursus is an absolute beast now, and isn't the point of EVE that no one ship is best in every situation, ie. A Brutix will murderify a Drake if gets in close, but at range its the other way around.


Incursus is a hell of a ship now? yes! So is Merlin now

Atron is the fastest frigate around? -probably yes but Caldary counterpart is not bad neither

And about Brutix murdify Drake well, I'm mainly trained Gallente and flow those for a very long time and can effectively say a gank Brutix vs Hams Drake Brutix will finish in space dust. Drake has already double EHP and HAM's are nothing to lol about when it comes to BC size.
When next Drake chances come out, and IF those are the ones announced, expect Drake to become next FOTOM BC in every possible way (+5% ROF and missile speed means a +33% -/+ for EM-TH-EX dmg type and a +25% ROF with HAM's)

This doesn't mean Brutix has no chance in game vs Drake, all depends how skilled and experienced pilots in are, but chances the Drake pilots kills a few Brutixes before it dies are higher than the other way around for obvious reasons.
Again, everything that doesn't involve gank static and defenceless industrials, gate or station camping, you're better off with caldari than Gallente.

Gallente has 1 Taloscane, that is everything you want but a gallente ship, it's more of a minmatar one with hybrids.

Caladari has Drake and Naga, the first being known and over known for being good at all you can do with, and the second being known as being the best sniper of all tier 3 BC's. (I think this is debatable vs Minmatar counter part)

Anyway whatever perception we can have about what Eve pvp is about or not, every race has good ships for a certain purpose except Gallente that are still stuck in station/gate camping and maybe certain WH's with bonus.
But they also have excellent ships every fleet wants or likes, Recons and Interceptors mainly.

So at the end OP is not going wrong training Calamari but if he chooses Gallente he's not going wrong neither, he will just limit a little bit he's gaming possibilities until ships revamp is completed.

brb

Rico Minali
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-06-22 13:35:50 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Suqq Madiq wrote:
I feel awful for anybody training Caldari.

Best T1 frigate: Check
Best Battlecruiser: Check
Best T3 Cruiser: Check
Best EWAR: Check

Poor, poor Caldari. How can they ever compete...


Nope.
Best T1 frigate: Incursus
Best Battlecruiser: Brutix
Best T3 Cruiser: Proteus
Best EWAR: Welp, yeah, that is ECM.




OK.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#43 - 2012-06-22 13:54:10 UTC
There are some good Caldari ships. A few off the top of my head:

Merlin
Hookbill
Manticore
Blackbird
Falcon
Drake
Tengu
Rokh (underrated brick of death)
Scorpion


The downsides of training Caldari:

Missile skills don't crosstrain the way gunnery skills do. Sharpshooter applies to three major weapon systems, while Warhead Upgrades applies to just missiles. This makes your training time when you jump to a new race that much longer.

Caldari also use hybrids (see Merlin and Rokh in that list) which means you'll need to double up on weapons training just to make use of all their ships. That's not as bad as it sounds, as hybrid training would at least prepare you for expanding to gallente ships more quickly.

Overall, the time to shift between Caldari and any other race is just longer than others. If you start with Minmatar with shield tanks, it's easy to switch to Caldari hybrid ships and then train for missiles to fill in. Amarr and Gallente are both armor tanking turret platforms that benefit from solid drone skills, and an armor Minmatar skillset can transition to either of them easily as well. Basically, you can expect to spend as much as an extra month making the switch, depending on your skill level.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2012-06-22 14:22:29 UTC
In every other game I've ever played I concerned myself completely with min/maxing... In eve I kind a feel like... well sure he has an AK/47 and all I have is this knife but, he has no idea Im behind him and I've got a clear shot at his exposed neck... so... wtf does that matter...
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