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Best Stealth Boat?

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SoBleak
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-21 07:07:39 UTC
Hey all I'm New to Eve and newer still to Eve PvP.
Anyhow the questions are:
Whats the best Stealth Bomber and whats the Fastest way to get into it?
Any advice on solo/ small group (2-5) PvP?
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-06-21 07:26:24 UTC
For you as Minmatar the Hound will be fastest, it's also one of the best.

In small groups it would be wise to have Manticore's as well (More midslots, for E-war TP's and SD's)

than there is the tactic you and you group want to follow, that will also determ which ships you fly and how.

As in most things in EVE there isn't one straight forward answer, there is a Chat box for Steath Bomber pilots online, can't remember the name, but there will be someone on the forums that can help you with it, log on to that they can help you out.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-06-21 07:27:22 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Best? Stealth Titan

Hound and manticore are considered "best" but they’re all fine. Use whichever one you think has the best dmg type for what your doing.
The fastest way to get into one is to train they’re skills first? I don’t really understand what you mean with that question :p

Solo... stay away from frigs, don’t mess with drone boats, be careful of cruisers, REALLY be careful of BC's, T3's will likely pwn you, drones hurt, TP's help a lot, having rats shoot at the other guy helps a lot, MWD helps get through gate camps AB's help you stay alive in a fight, nothing wrong with putting a MSE on a SB, use the right bomber (dmg type) for where your going ie. if the rats in your area do Explosive/kin then take a purifier (Em dmg) as you punch a big hole in any ratters resist hole.

Fleet... ask the other guy's what they’re doing, all load the SAME bomb, discuss which ewar your all using and coordinate.

No Worries

SoBleak
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-06-21 07:32:27 UTC
Mike Whiite wrote:
For you as Minmatar the Hound will be fastest, it's also one of the best.

In small groups it would be wise to have Manticore's as well (More midslots, for E-war TP's and SD's)

than there is the tactic you and you group want to follow, that will also determ which ships you fly and how.

As in most things in EVE there isn't one straight forward answer, there is a Chat box for Steath Bomber pilots online, can't remember the name, but there will be someone on the forums that can help you with it, log on to that they can help you out.


I am actually Caldari I was looking at the Manticore have approximately 98 days training to get there with t2 high/mid.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-06-21 07:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Most fits use meta 4 launchers, and you definatly dont need cloaking V. Also Stealth Bombers V isnt strickly needed (its nice but not a MUST have)

[Manticore, PvP]
Ballistic Control System II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Target Painter II
Faint Warp Disruptor I
1MN Afterburner II
Medium Shield Extender II

Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Prototype 'Arbalest' Torpedo Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Swap EWAR as needed You can also put an offlined Bomb launcher in the highs or a probe launcher, or even a gun

No Worries

Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-21 09:17:21 UTC
Channel mentioned above would be Bomber's Bar. Not sure if there's a 'The' prefixed there.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Seraph IX Basarab
Outer Path
Seraphim Division
#7 - 2012-06-21 10:46:35 UTC
Mike Whiite wrote:
As in most things in EVE there isn't one straight forward answer, there is a Chat box for Steath Bomber pilots online, can't remember the name, but there will be someone on the forums that can help you with it, log on to that they can help you out.


bombers bar (spelled just like that IIRC. MSG me if you need help getting in.)

Join up. We like to help anyone get into cov ops.


As for your question, there is no "best" stealth bomber. Each one is good at certain things depending on what you want to do. If you want to solo cloaky gank, it really doesn't matter as what you are really doing is just waiting to get a cloaky T3 and do the job properly. If you want to do small gang PVP with Stealth Bombers, picking off larger camping fleets, rules change.

Some things not to do.

1. Don't fit a tank. You won't get a good enough one to help you gain much surviability. Your tank is transversal and ewar.

2. Don't stack modules. Fitting effective bombers is hard enough. Don't stack double BCUs or some other non sense like that.

3. Don't fit a MWD. A MWD does literally nothing for you. It doesn't gain you enough transversal to offset your sig radius bloom. If you need to use a MWD to get close enough to a target...you didn't uncloak at the right time.

4. (Optional)...Tech 2 torps aren't all that great. The ammo either messes with your mobility or your sig radius. Both of which you want as good as possible. The DPS you can put out with even 8 bombers is very good. Tech 1 torps also deal with smaller targets better. Unless you are fighting a battleship + the tech 2 torps don't get you THAT much of an advantage. Use the meta 4s.


Now what each bomber is "best" in.

Hound is the best "Hunter point" bomber. Sometimes you can't warp in right on the target. You need to move in cloaked on the target. Hound has the best speed. You want the torp/bomb launchers along with the cloak in the High. Mid slots will be After Burner, long point, and a sensor damp with a RES DAMP script. This is so when you uncloak and point the target, the resolution damp gives you precious seconds that gives your team mates time to destroy your target. Use your Afterburner for Transversal. Low slots on the hound should be a BCU II and some combination of nano/injector.

Purifier is best for "stationary" point. It has the fastest lock time and should be fit similarly. Maybe use a low slot for making your resolution even higher.

Manticore is the easiest to fit probably. The 4 mid slots should have an afterburner, optional point, damp and target painter. Variations include target disruptors, double damps, triple damps or a combination of TDs, damps and TP. Because of the easy fitting you can also put some decent DPS modules just remember to always be aligned as the manticore has crap mobility.

Nemesis is the best for pure EWAR. Personally prefer AB, 2 damps and a target painter. BCU and nano in the lows. It has the best cap out of the 4 mid slot bombers allowing you to run the ewar the longest. It's mobility is also decent. You'll need to have good fitting skills for this bomber.
SoBleak
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-06-22 03:27:42 UTC
Lots of good info here thanks so much.

8 days till electronic upgrades finishes then I get Cov Op. exciting!
Marsan
#9 - 2012-06-22 03:58:03 UTC
Also consider what sort of bomber your friends (if any) are flying. Each bomber has a bonus to a given damage type and bombs have a resist to the damage type it does. It's always amusing to watch 3 different bomber try to bomb me at once, and end up blowing up each other's bombs.

Former forum cheerleader CCP, now just a grumpy small portion of the community.

SoBleak
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-06-22 04:03:14 UTC
Marsan wrote:
Also consider what sort of bomber your friends (if any) are flying. Each bomber has a bonus to a given damage type and bombs have a resist to the damage type it does. It's always amusing to watch 3 different bomber try to bomb me at once, and end up blowing up each other's bombs.


My partner is running a Hound I am looking at Manticore.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#11 - 2012-06-22 10:52:45 UTC
One thing to watch is if your planning to gank ratters pick a damage type opposite to the one the ratters will be tanking (I see so many Puris with EM torps trying to gank ratters in sansha space, and failing horribly)
SiTodd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-06-23 16:59:49 UTC
Mike Whiite wrote:

As in most things in EVE there isn't one straight forward answer, there is a Chat box for Steath Bomber pilots online, can't remember the name, but there will be someone on the forums that can help you with it, log on to that they can help you out.


Try the Bombers Bar in game or www.griefedgaming.com
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-06-23 17:16:07 UTC
SoBleak wrote:
Marsan wrote:
Also consider what sort of bomber your friends (if any) are flying. Each bomber has a bonus to a given damage type and bombs have a resist to the damage type it does. It's always amusing to watch 3 different bomber try to bomb me at once, and end up blowing up each other's bombs.


My partner is running a Hound I am looking at Manticore.



Whatever different bombers you use, just use the same bombs. Best is to use all the same bombers but if not just use same bombs, point black if you're bomb running whatever.

brb