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A 'blizzard' of nerdrage

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-20 12:20:46 UTC
Im sure plenty of you here also play Diablo 3, and you might also be aware that in the recent patch they tried their hardest to make the game utter crap, with great success.

Some people also learned some harsh life lessons to hillarious effect, beats the hell out of a $70 monacle

Fist - (Diablo forums) wrote:
Attack Speed Nerf. Protect your rights as consumers

We need to state our objection as community on this huge change.

Blizzard can't and shouldn't nerf AS as much as 50% on items we have bought with REAL MONEY. This is way too much.

For example, i have spent around 300 euros for items with attack speed and now they are gonna change properties of items i have paid real money for in less than a week? Really?

Even the items are virtual, the money spent is pretty much REAL. Blizzard should have thought the consequences with the RMAH. They can't simply do whatever they want. We are the consumers and we have rights. Laws simply prohibit these kind of situations so PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!

Priorities... a virtual sword is never worth €300

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-06-20 12:49:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sidus Isaacs
Its really funny that people think of them self as consumers. Funny word that.

Also funny that they actually bought Diablo III, and much more funny that they use the RL auction house at all. Should teach them all a lesson in buying into stupidity and greed.

Even more funny thinking that player run auctions should be a reason to not balance the game.

So many idiots in the world now a days,
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#3 - 2012-06-20 13:25:09 UTC
wow that is just r.etarded. spending RL iskies on digital items to play a game with.
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#4 - 2012-06-20 13:26:32 UTC
Well, they are definitely consumers in the business sense in that they are paying for an entertainment product and by playing, are consuming the content provided.

I haven't played D3 but I would never spend 70$ on a monocle so I would definitely never spend 300$ on an ingame item. That being said, I feel its worth pointing out there is a marked difference between a 70$ monocle that has no use other than decorating an avatar, and a 300Euro item that has a definite pay2win advantage.

And not that I'd play it, but I despise pay2win. Kind of why I dislike plex, someone can pay to get isk and economically that is winning, but I can live with it because at least there are no actual combat advantages provided.

So close...

Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-20 13:28:19 UTC
the gold auction house on Diablo 3 isnt pay-2-win per se, as all the items on sale are from player loot, its more of pay-2-not-grind

which is odd... as grinding seems to be the core basis of the game

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#6 - 2012-06-20 13:35:32 UTC
Oh so its almost identical to plex. Lol

Well now it sounds like Blizzard should have balanced the game before rolling this live AH out.

So close...

RubenX
The Drifters
#7 - 2012-06-20 13:44:26 UTC
Stuff gets nerfed and people cry. Same ole same ole.
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-06-20 13:49:51 UTC
Ituhata Saken wrote:
Well, they are definitely consumers in the business sense in that they are paying for an entertainment product and by playing, are consuming the content provided.

I haven't played D3 but I would never spend 70$ on a monocle so I would definitely never spend 300$ on an ingame item. That being said, I feel its worth pointing out there is a marked difference between a 70$ monocle that has no use other than decorating an avatar, and a 300Euro item that has a definite pay2win advantage.

And not that I'd play it, but I despise pay2win. Kind of why I dislike plex, someone can pay to get isk and economically that is winning, but I can live with it because at least there are no actual combat advantages provided.


You know how auctions work? Just wondering, because that player bought it from another player, not blizzard. (Blizzard just happen to take a very nice % of that money.) I guess D3 would be a great game to RMT in, hack an item, sell directly for RL money. Easy.

Also, how can you "consume" content?

All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept and I am still surprised people actually want to try it. But then again, all the sheeple of the world are raised to be happy little "consumers" with no standards after all, just gobbling up whatever **** they are fed.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-06-20 13:51:53 UTC
Sidus Isaacs wrote:
All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept...

Shocked wat?

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#10 - 2012-06-20 13:53:42 UTC
What's really sad about it is people are spending that kind of cash on a PVE-only game. There's no competitive edge to be had, just a slight gain in the speed at which you kill the mindless mobs.

What's the point of playing PVE if you're going to just go ahead and spend cash to leap ahead to the best stuff?

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-06-20 13:54:42 UTC
true.. i wish they released the game with a PVP game mode

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#12 - 2012-06-20 13:55:21 UTC
Sidus Isaacs wrote:


You know how auctions work? Just wondering, because that player bought it from another player, not blizzard. (Blizzard just happen to take a very nice % of that money.) I guess D3 would be a great game to RMT in, hack an item, sell directly for RL money. Easy.

Also, how can you "consume" content?

All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept and I am still surprised people actually want to try it. But then again, all the sheeple of the world are raised to be happy little "consumers" with no standards after all, just gobbling up whatever **** they are fed.


I was misunderstood, it sounds exactly like plex, pay2notgrind.

That being said, if you watch a movie you have consumed the content. You can watch it again but for all intents and purposes you have paid for the movie and seen its contents. The exact same is true if you play a game, particularly a pve heavy one, when you explore, quest, and run dungeons and raids you are consuming that content, regardless of its replay value. This is why expansions exist in most mmo's, to provide new content for its players to consume before they get bored and wander off to a new game.

So close...

Xenuria
#13 - 2012-06-20 14:36:58 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Im sure plenty of you here also play Diablo 3, and you might also be aware that in the recent patch they tried their hardest to make the game utter crap, with great success.

Some people also learned some harsh life lessons to hillarious effect, beats the hell out of a $70 monacle

Fist - (Diablo forums) wrote:
Attack Speed Nerf. Protect your rights as consumers

We need to state our objection as community on this huge change.

Blizzard can't and shouldn't nerf AS as much as 50% on items we have bought with REAL MONEY. This is way too much.

For example, i have spent around 300 euros for items with attack speed and now they are gonna change properties of items i have paid real money for in less than a week? Really?

Even the items are virtual, the money spent is pretty much REAL. Blizzard should have thought the consequences with the RMAH. They can't simply do whatever they want. We are the consumers and we have rights. Laws simply prohibit these kind of situations so PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!

Priorities... a virtual sword is never worth €300



I have been making insane amounts of cash on the RMAH... I have yet to spend any money on anything in that game, except for buying the game itself. It was a wise investment. One that has already paid for itself.
However it's a rat race once gold becomes purchasable on the RMAH everything is going to deflate FAST.

I might just buy a SSD with the money I got in my paypal from selling virtual gear to these morons.
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#14 - 2012-06-20 14:46:38 UTC
Problem IMO with D3 is that I think it would have been better if Activision did not get their claws into Blizzard.

EVE is like swimming on a beach in shark infested waters,  There is however a catch...  The EVE Beach you also have to wonder which fellow swimmer will try and eat you before the sharks.

Xenuria
#15 - 2012-06-20 15:23:36 UTC
Viktor Fyretracker wrote:
Problem IMO with D3 is that I think it would have been better if Activision did not get their claws into Blizzard.



Yes..

Activision is the antithesis of CCP...
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-06-20 15:26:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Sidus Isaacs
Ituhata Saken wrote:
Sidus Isaacs wrote:


You know how auctions work? Just wondering, because that player bought it from another player, not blizzard. (Blizzard just happen to take a very nice % of that money.) I guess D3 would be a great game to RMT in, hack an item, sell directly for RL money. Easy.

Also, how can you "consume" content?

All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept and I am still surprised people actually want to try it. But then again, all the sheeple of the world are raised to be happy little "consumers" with no standards after all, just gobbling up whatever **** they are fed.


I was misunderstood, it sounds exactly like plex, pay2notgrind.

That being said, if you watch a movie you have consumed the content. You can watch it again but for all intents and purposes you have paid for the movie and seen its contents. The exact same is true if you play a game, particularly a pve heavy one, when you explore, quest, and run dungeons and raids you are consuming that content, regardless of its replay value. This is why expansions exist in most mmo's, to provide new content for its players to consume before they get bored and wander off to a new game.


Ah, I just never use consume in that way. I am old fashioned, and I 'play' a game's PVE content, or enjoy a movie, or think about music I listen to ;)

To me "consume" only represents some marketing jargon that i want no part of (I think it is a devaluing term). "I consume food/drink" is the only way I will use it ;)
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#17 - 2012-06-20 15:32:36 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Viktor Fyretracker wrote:
Problem IMO with D3 is that I think it would have been better if Activision did not get their claws into Blizzard.



Yes..

Activision is the antithesis of CCP...

Which is why EVE works, CCP is independent. They do not answer to some mega-conglomerate. Yes they do have investors I am sure but I am guessing they are not connected to any game destroying company like Activision or EA.

EVE is like swimming on a beach in shark infested waters,  There is however a catch...  The EVE Beach you also have to wonder which fellow swimmer will try and eat you before the sharks.

Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#18 - 2012-06-20 15:33:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Ituhata Saken
Quote:

To me "consume" only represents some marketing jargon that i want no part of (I think it is a devaluing term). "I consume food/drink" is the only way I will use it ;)

'I consume the corpses of my victims' is a fun way to use that word. Lol

I kinda figured that was the way you were using it. I'm ok using a looser definition because I consider a car combusting gas to be consuming fuel. At that point the term defines usage and can then be applied more liberally. Smile

So close...

Copine Callmeknau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-06-20 15:35:34 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Im sure plenty of you here also play Diablo 3, and you might also be aware that in the recent patch they tried their hardest to make the game utter crap, with great success.

Some people also learned some harsh life lessons to hillarious effect, beats the hell out of a $70 monacle

Fist - (Diablo forums) wrote:
Attack Speed Nerf. Protect your rights as consumers

We need to state our objection as community on this huge change.

Blizzard can't and shouldn't nerf AS as much as 50% on items we have bought with REAL MONEY. This is way too much.

For example, i have spent around 300 euros for items with attack speed and now they are gonna change properties of items i have paid real money for in less than a week? Really?

Even the items are virtual, the money spent is pretty much REAL. Blizzard should have thought the consequences with the RMAH. They can't simply do whatever they want. We are the consumers and we have rights. Laws simply prohibit these kind of situations so PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS!

Priorities... a virtual sword is never worth €300

A virtual pixel spaceship probably shouldn't be worth thousands either, but well there you have it

There should be a rather awesome pic here

Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-06-20 15:46:20 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:
Sidus Isaacs wrote:
All in all I think D3 is a disgusting concept...

Shocked wat?


This being the main reason: http://www.thefunnyblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/funny-9gag-diablo-iii-my-fathers-mastercard.jpg

If blizzard would just make a normal diablo without any of the RL cash involved I would have seen it as OK, still just a hack and slash i would not play, but at least not so disgusting.
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