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Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#41 - 2012-06-20 15:15:05 UTC
FIRST GENERAL wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
How would you feel if all of the large Caldari groups formed a logi fleet or carrier fleet to help the Minni's take your home system, in fact that sounds like a wonderful idea.


The day Caldari are able field carriers the Eve servers will prolly melt down.

But hey, put your money where your mouth is and come at us bro - oh and don't forget to bring your Snuff overlords with you because i don't think your Drakes will make a dent.

The Caldari owns caps, and the servers have yet to melt.

But what does a nullsec Indy toon/corp that builds and sells Caps all day know?
Gunthar X
Desecration
#42 - 2012-06-20 15:16:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Gunthar X
FIRST GENERAL wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
How would you feel if all of the large Caldari groups formed a logi fleet or carrier fleet to help the Minni's take your home system, in fact that sounds like a wonderful idea.


The day Caldari are able field carriers the Eve servers will prolly melt down.

But hey, put your money where your mouth is and come at us bro.


I hate to break this too you there home slice but your group is not the only one that has caps. We just rarely use them since using caps normally means a pirate or 0.0 group gets called to hot drop on them. Ask the Gallente what happens when you drop caps, I think they are up to 2 or 3 cap fleets dead. I will say in most cases they were good fights and I commend them for putting them on the field however if you drop caps you should always consider them lost.

I am sure the chest beating now is helping your groups case my question is did you stand up from your chair and pull your shirt off as you typed that?

We are not actively helping your enemy take your stuff even though we could yet you guys are constantly helping the Gallente fight us and the same with them helping you fight the Minni's I am just wondering how long it will be before both the Minni and Caldari get together and start killing both of you.

EDIT: since you decided to fix yours let me respond to that section. Since drakes are so useless how come 0.0 alliance use drake armies to **** and pillage. The main reason most Caldari FW fleets consist of more drakes is because that is something we have in abundance and most pilots can fly, do not think for a moment that we can only fly drakes besides from what I have seen of your fleets I would take our Drake army and FC's over anything you guys could possibly muster that and as soon as the minni's realize what is going on they will bring their blob to help kill you because of your last incident.
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2012-06-20 15:26:10 UTC
I think the amar just have **** fro brains.

Frozen Synapse came up and engaged us what happend...raped.....sound like WB might be next on the list. But then again they cant fight the minnies so they have to go somewhere....................

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
FIRST GENERAL
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#44 - 2012-06-20 15:27:20 UTC
Gunthar X wrote:

I am sure the chest beating now is helping your groups case my question is did you stand up from your chair and pull your shirt off as you typed that?


Not only did i pull my shirt off, i was bouncing my pec's too.
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
#45 - 2012-06-20 15:30:48 UTC
Mai Khumm wrote:
FIRST GENERAL wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
How would you feel if all of the large Caldari groups formed a logi fleet or carrier fleet to help the Minni's take your home system, in fact that sounds like a wonderful idea.


The day Caldari are able field carriers the Eve servers will prolly melt down.

But hey, put your money where your mouth is and come at us bro - oh and don't forget to bring your Snuff overlords with you because i don't think your Drakes will make a dent.

The Caldari owns caps, and the servers have yet to melt.

But what does a nullsec Indy toon/corp that builds and sells Caps all day know?


Field, not own ...
Crimper
Shadow State
Goonswarm Federation
#46 - 2012-06-20 15:38:04 UTC
WOW! there's a huge amount of ego and alpha-male butthurt going on in FW these days!

I've flown alongside almost every older FW person regardless of their faction. I'm in it for the PVP.

SOME (not all) of the Amarr seem to think we care about the issues they are having with us. other Amarr don't care one way or another and will fly with us solely for the reason we all fleet up in the first place..... (to get kills).

Caldari are mis-informed apparently as they believe that their allegiance with or against us matters somehow.

Minmatar do what they can in the forums to provoke us into fighting (fact is, they only need to bring something decent to the fight and stick around, and we'll play).

Funny thing about this, is that the Gallente haven't chimed in yet, really.

Look boys, you all need to lose the ego AND the RP then we will all be able to play well in the sandbox. We've made some awesome friends that we have a solid, trusting relationship with, and who just so happen to be in Gallente militia....deal with it.

FW provides a significant amount of targets and ISK.....that's the bottom line for us. Nothing more, nothing less.
Gunthar X
Desecration
#47 - 2012-06-20 15:38:42 UTC
Lock out wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
FIRST GENERAL wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
How would you feel if all of the large Caldari groups formed a logi fleet or carrier fleet to help the Minni's take your home system, in fact that sounds like a wonderful idea.


The day Caldari are able field carriers the Eve servers will prolly melt down.

But hey, put your money where your mouth is and come at us bro - oh and don't forget to bring your Snuff overlords with you because i don't think your Drakes will make a dent.

The Caldari owns caps, and the servers have yet to melt.

But what does a nullsec Indy toon/corp that builds and sells Caps all day know?


Field, not own ...



Field them quite a bit actually we just don't hot drop every fleet and lose them constantly like you guys seem to.
Gunthar X
Desecration
#48 - 2012-06-20 15:44:59 UTC
Back to the point of the thread before all the drama.

This fleet was a great success and resulted in another Caldari victory, the war is going quite well with systems switching sides constantly and each side trying to out do the other through solid strategy and good fleets. Its a shame that these issues have been ruining an otherwise good conflict.

One can only hope that CCP can manage to put a more significant punishment for assisting enemy militia's and the other 50+ issues that FW currently has. Regardless of who benefits each militia should have an even playing field to start from and so far many of these issues are causing problems for various militias we can only hope that CCP takes a hard look at FW and evens everything out so its not a one sided conflict and both sides can sustain themselves and engage on equal footing even if it means we lose the war at least then the side that wins knows they won fairly without the exploiting of bugs and broken mechanics.
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#49 - 2012-06-20 15:45:34 UTC
Gunthar X wrote:
Lock out wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
FIRST GENERAL wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:
How would you feel if all of the large Caldari groups formed a logi fleet or carrier fleet to help the Minni's take your home system, in fact that sounds like a wonderful idea.


The day Caldari are able field carriers the Eve servers will prolly melt down.

But hey, put your money where your mouth is and come at us bro - oh and don't forget to bring your Snuff overlords with you because i don't think your Drakes will make a dent.

The Caldari owns caps, and the servers have yet to melt.

But what does a nullsec Indy toon/corp that builds and sells Caps all day know?


Field, not own ...



Field them quite a bit actually we just don't hot drop every fleet and lose them constantly like you guys seem to.


This is why sales have dropped...
FIRST GENERAL
Hostile.
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#50 - 2012-06-20 15:45:58 UTC  |  Edited by: FIRST GENERAL
Gunthar X wrote:
Back to the point of the thread before all the drama.

This fleet was a great success and resulted in another Snuffbox victory


Fixed, props to Snuff by the way, delivering quality pew as usual.
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
#51 - 2012-06-20 15:47:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lock out
Gunthar X wrote:


Field them quite a bit actually we just field them when it's an easy gank not risk them in proper fights where supers will drop.


Fixed that for you. Also -FU- has 22 dread kills and 22 carrier kills last month for the loss of 2 carriers and 3 dreads, so we're doing quite fine with kills and losses, thank you.

We're quite happy to field them and lose some when there's a gf , get new ones and get back at it. Unlike some drake lovers we're not poor scrubs coming in at range to whore on mails and make chestebating posts about how relevant we were in our drakes in a fight won by a good arti mach setup with super support.
BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#52 - 2012-06-20 15:49:39 UTC
Lock out wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:


Field them quite a bit actually we just field them when it's an easy gank not risk them in proper fights where supers will drop.


Fixed that for you. Also -FU- has 22 dread kills and 22 carrier kills last month for the loss of 2 carriers and 3 dreads, so we're doing quite fine with kills and losses, thank you.

We're quite happy to field them and lose some when there's a gf , get new ones and get back at it. Unlike some drake lovers we're not poor scrubs coming in at range to ***** on mails and make chestebating posts about how relevant we were in our drakes in a fight won by a good arti mach setup with super support.



Stop talking about Chatgris' nano fleets like that!!!

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Gunthar X
Desecration
#53 - 2012-06-20 16:02:29 UTC
Since WBR was only there to help their friends I have a simple question. Once Snuff was dead and the Gallente fleet held the field were you going to assist the Caldari against the Gallente fleet or were you going to sit there and watch them die? Since you only help the group that are your best bud's would you have assisted the Caldari in killing everyone in that Gal fleet with the exception of your buddies or would you have stood by and watched them die?

I can accept the fact that you wanted to kill Snuff, since we fight them all the time, but the problem people in the Caldari and Minni militias have is that when we fight one of you two we never know when a friendly group is going to show up and help them kill us. Put yourselves in our position and think for a moment how you would feel if you were taking a key system such as Huola and a Caldari militia fleet showed up and helped the Minni's to hold that system.

The Caldari are supposed to work with the Amarr just as the Gal's and the Minni's are supposed to work together, if this is not what you wanted then why did you join FW in the first place? Why not join together and go to 0.0 or join the same militia? Both of these options would allow you the same ability to work together while not creating the drama that you both apparently don't understand. The only logical conclusion the casual observer can make is that you did it intentionally to exploit the mechanics to ensure that you could do exactly what your doing and force anyone who wants to stop you to take massive standings hits. If that is the case then just say so, put all the drama to rest instead of telling people you will only help them defend their home, then oh we only came to kill snuff, whats next we helped them take your systems because they are our buddies?
Gunthar X
Desecration
#54 - 2012-06-20 16:05:33 UTC
BolsterBomb wrote:
Lock out wrote:
Gunthar X wrote:


Field them quite a bit actually we just field them when it's an easy gank not risk them in proper fights where supers will drop.


Fixed that for you. Also -FU- has 22 dread kills and 22 carrier kills last month for the loss of 2 carriers and 3 dreads, so we're doing quite fine with kills and losses, thank you.

We're quite happy to field them and lose some when there's a gf , get new ones and get back at it. Unlike some drake lovers we're not poor scrubs coming in at range to ***** on mails and make chestebating posts about how relevant we were in our drakes in a fight won by a good arti mach setup with super support.



Stop talking about Chatgris' nano fleets like that!!!


Qcats are not part of this discussion, they always fight us and don't hide behind their Amarr buddies when they can't fight something on their own.

Go ahead and pull the hiding behind Snuff card in your reply too, little fact though Snuff is not in an enemy militia they are pirates and we had a common enemy you guys on the other hand help our common enemy to kill your friendly militia's. Little bit of a difference between the two.
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#55 - 2012-06-20 16:06:05 UTC
If I had known what kind of shitstorm ensues from writing a harmless battlereport, I would never have botheredRoll
Gunthar X
Desecration
#56 - 2012-06-20 16:09:23 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
If I had known what kind of shitstorm ensues from writing a harmless battlereport, I would never have botheredRoll



But it passes the time, besides you should know if you mention WBR helping an enemy militia fleet that they will pounce on the thread to tell everyone how they were only helping their buddies.
Crimper
Shadow State
Goonswarm Federation
#57 - 2012-06-20 16:19:06 UTC
Gunthar X wrote:
Go ahead and pull the hiding behind Snuff card in your reply too, little fact though Snuff is not in an enemy militia they are pirates and we had a common enemy you guys on the other hand help our common enemy to kill your friendly militia's. Little bit of a difference between the two.


Friendly militia? Really? Where? Maybe insofar as game mechanics go theoretically, but thats about it!

All I've read in this entire thread (and others like it) is the Caldari saying, " waahhhhh, you don't love us anymore! And you're being bullies. I'm gonna take my toys and go play with somebody else and when I grow up, I'm gonna hurt you".

seriously, show me on the doll where daddy hurt you .
Crimper
Shadow State
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2012-06-20 16:20:25 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
If I had known what kind of shitstorm ensues from writing a harmless battlereport, I would never have botheredRoll


honestly Damar?!?!?

You knew EXACTLY what this would do. I mean, you are a lot of things, but an idiot isn't one of them
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#59 - 2012-06-20 16:20:46 UTC
Joanna Ramirez wrote:
If I had known what kind of shitstorm ensues from writing a harmless battlereport, I would never have botheredRoll
Understandable. Afterall, who could have possibly predicted this response? Blink
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#60 - 2012-06-20 16:25:47 UTC
Crimper wrote:
You knew EXACTLY what this would do. I mean, you are a lot of things, but an idiot isn't one of them


I expected some mild smack along the lines "From our perspective, we think...." but not just a terrible hatred piled on my door. After all, I only flew one bloody drake there.