EVE General Discussion

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too easy to grief someone (even by CCP's "loose" standard of what that means). Individual players shouldn't be able to be singled out - target their corp.

IMHO.

Asuri beat me to it.



I think it folly to require a single individual to defend against 9000 (in the case of the largest alliance). It sets a dangerous precedent. If this was deployed in the live environment, again, a risk adverse individual who is willing to pay 11% tax to remain invulnerable to a wardec is not suddenly going to strap guns to his ship to fight off a rival corp or alliance. He will simply stay in station playing Skill Queue Online until the war is over or he will just quit. This is not the desired effect and again does not address the root issue.

Additionally, if you want to blow up a single individual the mechanics to do so already exist in game. You and your friends can all fit gank nados and take him out wherever he might be. Asking to be able to wardec a single individual so you can shoot them with impunity and without a CONCORD response reeks of, "I want easy, risk free kills in high sec".

I do appreciate you voicing your opinion and for keeping it constructive. I just can't get behind it as you and Nicolo have it stated. I also hope that this has helped to clarify my previous statement.

So if I understand this concept of "Sanctions" your desire is to spend ISK to dictate to another player what ship types they can and cannot fly thereby depriving them of choices? And before you say, "No, they have choices. There are just consequences for their choices", those consequences already exist in game.

In this game a miner, as an example, regardless of whether he is in an NPC Corporation or not makes a choice to undock a Hulk (tank or untanked doesn't make a difference). There are possible consequences and ramifications of doing so. Perhaps you are the consequence as you gank him in his favorite belt and then promptly get CONCORDed.

In your scenario, you would "sanction" this guy and limit his choices. This equates to you saying, "I don't think you should be allowed to undock a Hulk and if you do, I will kill you." My response to that is, "What gives you the ******* right to tell me what my choices are?"

While it may not be an accurate assessment I can tell you what the perception is: you want to kill people in High Sec without being CONCORDed and that really is it. Unless you can find a better way to do this I don't see this getting much traction and it still fails to address the topic of this thread. How do we improve the living conditions in Null Sec so it's residents can actually live there?

It was just an idea. I view it like a diet version of war decing a one man player corp, but I seem to have failed in painting the picture for you. The idea did stem off of addressing freighter alts performing logistics with impunity without obliterating NPC corps completely.

You've made me smile tonight.

TY.

I will try.

Remember I am ignorant of Null Sec politics and power blocs - bear in mind as you read.

A Null Sec alliance in 6NJ8-V (0.0) does not have enough slots to efficiently refine their ABC so they decide to outsource the work to a high sec station in Saisio. They use a jump freighter/bridge to move the ore quickly to M-OEE8 (0.0) and warp to 0 on the gate to Taisy (0.3). They jump a scout into Taisy and the gate appears to be clear. Local and D-Scan only show one other person in system. Freighter is given the go ahead to jump into Taisy and warp to 0 on the gate to Nalvula (0.4). Again, scout goes through and sees a large group of negative sec status pirates sitting on the gate.

Alliance has the choice of jumping through a combat fleet to clear a path for the freighter or finding an alternate route. If the freighter and its escort fleet emerge victorious, the fleet then warps to 0 on the Vuorrassi (0.5) gate and jumps in and then finishes their run to Saisio to refine the ABC there. Then has to make the trip back with the refined goods and essentially run the gauntlet again.

Thus creating small gang PvP in lowsec and more pew pew for null sec PvP enthusiasts that may want to do something other than 1000+ member fleet battles just as a change of pace.

Bear in mind, none of this can be deployed successfully unless the industry in Null is improved. Otherwise, Null Sec alliances would have to take EVERYTHING through lowsec and they have enough risk as it is just living in Null (or at least they should considering the intent of design). It should be more efficient to do this stuff in Null but not enough to completely eliminate the occasional desire to take the stuff to High Sec to improve efficiency.

This is just a rough idea and obviously not a finished product but at least a baseline for discussion.

Does this make the idea clearer? What are your thoughts? What from your experience could be changed here to make it better or more vibrant?

Really need to make low sec healthy before looking at Null, while both Hi and Null sec have pro’s and cons there is at least a synergy between them. Low seems to be pretty much an under utilised no mans land at present, any solution for the cons in Null and Hi perceived or otherwise must as a matter of course take into consideration the current state of low. Low has probably the highest risk factor and most difficult to access rewards, the population in Null talk about nerfing Hi and visa versa, Nul want’s Hi’s infrastructure Hi would like Nul’s mineral wealth, both consider themselves hard done by. Hi is civilisation, Null is Wilderness, perhaps Low should be the Boom area, Semi Lawless Frontier in between, my suggestion would be to leave the majority of Null and Hi as they currently stand but move the main Trading Hubs and the wealth into low. Just a thought, it would certainly make life a lot more interesting.

Thinking about it, moving the trade centres to low would also open up interesting lines of work for Merc’s hiring out as escorts or guards in local systems , and for logistics organisations hauling freight.

"Life wasn't meant to be easy"

Access, Jita wasn't the first Super Hub, look up the Yulai system. CCP nerfed it, Jita and the other hubs need not go just be downgraded a tad, they are only the way they are while CCP allows them to be.

Out of laziness (also ego) I'm skipping 50+ pages.


Five years ago, nullsec was mostly dead as could be. Less you happened to be on during the time that a given alliance roamed around. I'd regularly make trips from Syndicate to Curse without a single bump along the way.