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Making nullsec vibrant again

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Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#401 - 2012-06-20 19:17:43 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
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You claimed that JBs were used to run around 40 jumps every day during wars. VFK to ZXB is 37 actual jumps.


No, I said JB's make power projection too easy.

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Ah, the condescending routine. I've never seen that one before.


lol that's rich coming from someone who until now could only throw personal insults or talk about -----Edit------ lol

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Listen, if you ever get some actual nullsec experience, then you can come and talk to us big boys about how we need to make changes for the betterment of the game. Until then, run along and play with your small friends.


Awww.. what a cutie. Thinks he is a big boy. so cute.

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No personal attacks, please.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaison
Interstellar Services Department
Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#402 - 2012-06-20 19:18:27 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:

Jump drives have done more to ruin lo/nullsec industrialists than anything else.


+1. Would love to see JDs nerfed/removed. Make the universe feel big again.

Also agree with otherwise boosting industrialists in null.
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#403 - 2012-06-20 19:18:29 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Riedle wrote:
Well inbetween you did hit on another good idea. The PI extractors should have a massive HP decrease. That way a small gang could go through and if no one came out to defend their space they could go shoot up the PI extractors or whatever they are called.


anyone who knows what they're talking about would know that they're called pocos


I already said I don't do industry lol
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#404 - 2012-06-20 19:18:59 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Awww.. what a cutie. Thinks he is a big boy. so cute.


your small gang pvp alliance has certainly made far more of an impact in nullsec than bat country

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#405 - 2012-06-20 19:19:51 UTC
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But if only the JBs were nerfed to home defense fleets wouldn't kick his arse so much, nullsec would be REALLY hardcore, cutthroat etc! If only!


Ahh, but you are the PVP pro eh? lol

sad state of affairs
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#406 - 2012-06-20 19:23:42 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Quote:
But if only the JBs were nerfed to home defense fleets wouldn't kick his arse so much, nullsec would be REALLY hardcore, cutthroat etc! If only!


Ahh, but you are the PVP pro eh? lol

sad state of affairs


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13420725

yeah we can tell that this was clearly a very engaging fight but you overcame the odds and killed the drake and hurricane

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#407 - 2012-06-20 19:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Richard Desturned wrote:
Riedle wrote:
Quote:
But if only the JBs were nerfed to home defense fleets wouldn't kick his arse so much, nullsec would be REALLY hardcore, cutthroat etc! If only!


Ahh, but you are the PVP pro eh? lol

sad state of affairs


http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13420725

yeah we can tell that this was clearly a very engaging fight but you overcame the odds and killed the drake and hurricane



lol dude, clearly making an impact. You have 4 kills to your name. you is pro.

Anyways, it was enlightening. -----Edit----- - that's what I learned.

toodles.

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Please, no personal attacks.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaison
Interstellar Services Department
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#408 - 2012-06-20 19:27:43 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Quote:
You claimed that JBs were used to run around 40 jumps every day during wars. VFK to ZXB is 37 actual jumps.


No, I said JB's make power projection too easy.

Uh huh. Let's go back a few pages, shall we?
Riedle wrote:
But without jump bridges the sales job that 'This is an essential OP to the Alliance will become that much harder to make once you have fleet members jump 40 jumps each way to attack a POS of a smaller alliance you have never heard of.

Fancy that.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#409 - 2012-06-20 19:29:04 UTC
Riedle wrote:
lol dude, clearly making an impact. You have 4 kills to your name. you is pro.

Anyways, it was enlightening. Goonies should put a forum leash on the idiots - that's what I learned.

toodles.


my PvP main is unsubbed but unlike you I'm not concerned about kdr

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#410 - 2012-06-20 19:30:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Lord Zim wrote:
Riedle wrote:
Quote:
You claimed that JBs were used to run around 40 jumps every day during wars. VFK to ZXB is 37 actual jumps.


No, I said JB's make power projection too easy.

Uh huh. Let's go back a few pages, shall we?
Riedle wrote:
But without jump bridges the sales job that 'This is an essential OP to the Alliance will become that much harder to make once you have fleet members jump 40 jumps each way to attack a POS of a smaller alliance you have never heard of.

Fancy that.


Ahh, I guess the alliance you were evicting in fountain delve or deklein-----Edit-----?

lol

night all - please tip your server

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Please, no personal attacks.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaison
Interstellar Services Department
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#411 - 2012-06-20 19:31:07 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Richard Desturned wrote:
Riedle wrote:
lol dude, clearly making an impact. You have 4 kills to your name. you is pro.

Anyways, it was enlightening. Goonies should put a forum leash on the idiots - that's what I learned.

toodles.


my PvP main is unsubbed but unlike you I'm not concerned about kdr


You are the one who brought it up-----Edit-----.

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ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaison
Interstellar Services Department
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#412 - 2012-06-20 19:31:36 UTC
ruh rohhh
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#413 - 2012-06-20 19:31:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
~snip~

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
dontbanmebro
Doomheim
#414 - 2012-06-20 19:31:54 UTC
I see we've backpedaled so far now that we've fallen over ourselves and we were really talking about small gang pvp all along.

Unfortunately you're still wrong, as the problem with small gang pvp in nullsec is lack of meaningful targets for them to hit. The best defensive option is to just dock up and wait them out, which a lot of people choose, with most engagements being about voluntary "goodfights" instead of necessary defence to an applied offence. PI offices were a move in the right direction, but still part of this failed "hit point and timer" paradigm.

All removing JBs will do for small gangs is mean less people bothering to own and use nullsec space, and correspondingly less targets.

Fortunately for everyone else, this concept of "farms and fields" is what is driving current discussions over nullsec redesign, so the opinion of clueless mouthbreathers on JBs is meaningless.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#415 - 2012-06-20 19:32:00 UTC
Riedle wrote:
Ahh, I guess the alliance you were evicting in fountain delve or deklein that your Daddy took you to was a small alliance you never heard of right you knuckle dragging, knock kneed, lazy eyed, hook nosed turd sluper?

lol

night all - please tip your server

So you're so unfamiliar with nullsec you don't even know who we evicted?

I see.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Kieron VonDeux
#416 - 2012-06-20 19:32:58 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:



yeah we can tell that this was clearly a very engaging fight but you overcame the odds and killed the drake and hurricane


If only we could get past the "my peen is biggger than your peen" thing...
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#417 - 2012-06-20 19:34:59 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
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So you're so unfamiliar with nullsec you don't even know who we evicted?

I see.


Are you seriously this -----Edit-----or are you being obtuse?

Please let it be you being obtuse as I already fret about the future of humanity as it is.

I know who you evicted-----Edit-----. You apparently are really proud of it. I thought I already said congratulations?

What I was saying is that my opening scenario was not that. Do you get it now?

Please god, tell me that you do?

Edit - I was always talking about small gang. You -----Edit----- weren't able to see what I was talking about because you were too busy congratulating yourselves for being in Goonswarm.

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ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communications Liaison
Interstellar Services Department
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#418 - 2012-06-20 19:37:19 UTC
Riedle wrote:
I know who you evicted your ignoramus. You apparently are really proud of it.


Yes, we evicted what constituted, at the time, the largest alliance in the game, one with a history of touting itself as ~omnipotence itself~ - yes, you could say we we would have been quite proud of it, had they not imploded with drama.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Riedle
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#419 - 2012-06-20 19:39:00 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Riedle wrote:
I know who you evicted your ignoramus. You apparently are really proud of it.


Yes, we evicted what constituted, at the time, the largest alliance in the game, one with a history of touting itself as ~omnipotence itself~ - yes, you could say we we would have been quite proud of it, had they not imploded with drama.


*smiles awkwardly and backs away slowly looking for the nearest exit hoping they will get the help that they need*
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#420 - 2012-06-20 19:40:29 UTC
Well this thread went to ****.