EVE General Discussion

I haven't read every post, though there have been some good ones, I still see a lot of the "This is the way that I believe the game should be played, all others should play the same as me, if only to provide more targets.". Fact is eve is a sandbox and there is no good reason that someone should be forced out of high-sec just because you want more people in null. Nerfing those that enjoy the high-sec life will only cause people to quit, if they don't want to play the game the same way you do, nothing you can do will change this.

I have tried null sec, I don't see why I should move out there again, issues I have:

1. Alliance turns out to be ******, no one defends but just docks up when nuets/reds enter the system.
2. To find good targets if I am based deep in null sec I have to travel 20+ systems.
3. Bubbles, sorry, I know they have a purpose, and yes there are ways to deal with them, but I don't like them and I don't want to deal with them.
4. CTA's and deployments, I have talked to a couple null sec corps that have actual deployments. Now I guess that is kind of fun if that is what you are into, but one corp had three week deployments in which you were not allowed to go anywhere or do anything outside of your deployed region. No thanks, I like to pew pew when I feel like it and relax and carebear it up when I feel like it.
5. Politics
6. Logistics of getting equipment on your own schedule and not waiting until there is a chance that your corp may have room on the next JF.
7. Gate camps, woohoo, lets spend 2 hours sitting on a gate in the hopes that a target or two may come through.

Address all of those issues and I will consider going back, until then I will get my PvP fix in low-sec and the occasional high-sec war, and relax while I farm L4's and watch movies during my downtime. You want more targets, move to low sec, farm us silly FW pilots and fight the various corps that live in low, they are out there.

Here is an idea, I want more targets in low, I think CCP should nerf null, make moon goo exclusive to low sec, yadda, yadda, yadda, play the game my way.

It is not that there is no incentive to go out, there is, better mining, upgraded systems etc., you can definitely do better isk wise, I just don't want to deal with all the other crap that goes along with it.

if you are unwilling to face the risks inherent with the income stream of l4s then you should receive less reward: forcing you to switch to l3s as the price of safety is entirely appropriate

So we've gone from "you regularly travelled back and forth all the way from deklein to delve every day during the freeporting" to "you freighter ships to forward staging systems via JBs" to ... home defense fleets using JBs.

I see.

There's so much nonsense in this I can't even respond succintly. This is a nonsensical view of why people don't small-gang pvp, it's a nonsensical idea of nullsec to begin with ("each station being self-sufficient") it's just nonsensical everything. People don't fight small roaming gangs because it's usually pointless and just encourages more roaming gangs, and the roaming gangs can't actually do anything if you just dock up your ratting ship, and my god this is just so dumb.

Dude, I don't even know what you are talking about anymore.

You do realize that you are the only one talking about trips to fountain or delve or deklein and stuff right?

lol I see you must have enjoyed that in EVE and are quite proud of it - lol good for you *Pats Head*
I'm sure you were a good order taker. good for you. Everyone here is proud I'm sure.

Now, if you are able to stop reliving your past internet spaceship glories perhaps you could enter into the debate?

That's a boy.

Most members of the CFC don't have to deal with CTAs, are not forced to deploy anywhere and do not have to worry about the logistical hassle of moving stuff from Empire, considering that several people offer such services. You can't escape politics in any large organization, in EVE or otherwise. You don't have to camp gates and the only reason people dock up when neuts/reds enter the system is because nobody has bothered to form a gang to counter them (sorry, don't even suggest "growing balls" and "taking them on yourself" because it's 20 dudes versus you) and bubbles are a fact of 0.0 life.

It's one thing if nullsec simply doesn't suit you - there is nothing that we or CCP can do to make nullsec for everyone. It's another if nullsec mechanics are hindering willing players from participating due to sheer tedium (i.e. the ****-poor state of industry outside of titan building)

you clearly are very, very bad at it because you don't understand what's going on at all

if you want to incentivize people fighting small gangs you make things that the small gang can destroy that people don't want to let them destroy

jump bridges have nothing to do with why you're getting owned or not getting fights

You claimed that JBs were used to run around 40 jumps every day during wars. VFK to ZXB is 37 actual jumps.


Ah, the condescending routine. I've never seen that one before.

Listen, if you ever get some actual nullsec experience, then you can come and talk to us big boys about how we need to make changes for the betterment of the game. Until then, run along and play with your small friends.

Well inbetween you did hit on another good idea. The PI extractors should have a massive HP decrease. That way a small gang could go through and if no one came out to defend their space they could go shoot up the PI extractors or whatever they are called.

But if only the JBs were nerfed to home defense fleets wouldn't kick his arse so much, nullsec would be REALLY hardcore, cutthroat etc! If only!