EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'm not ignoring it. She's under the impression that we are going to all 4 on 1 hulks for kills. Which we're not. The Pilgrim isn't a tackle, It's a ship capable of a 1 v 1 when the situation presents itself, and only when it presents itself.

Our goal is not to be gankers, but 1 v 1 griefers capable of shutting down or slowing the industrial portion of a system. Sure, there can be mining ops, but not with out solid defence. Sure you can solo mine in a grav, but you should be checking that dscan as often as possible.

We want to be ninjas. Not another Gank Squad. We want to base our tactics off of studying and monitoring the enemy and inputing the data into a program that I made myself for exactly our corp. If we were impatient, and so easily baited just for a kill, I'm sure this wouldn't work, but if we are willing to watch a hulk mine for 3 hours a day, for 2 days to get it's pattern down, and camp in front of a station, belt, or gate just documenting the everyday happenings, and patterns of our enemy, than I have no doubt that our enemy will be extremely annoyed with us regardless if we even get a single kill, and hopefully, we can achieve ultimate goal.

We plan to be pirates, but we aren't pirating ships. We're pirating systems.

The truth is that there are plenty of great PvP corps out there that are exactly what you are looking for, but you need to recognise that the onus is on you to convince them that you are the right fit.

Take my own corp as an example. The Tuskers are a pure pvp corp; we're ranked number 9 on battleclinic, for whatever that's worth. We fly exclusively solo and in small gangs. While we do take on new players from time to time, we only do so for candidates of exceptional quality.

Sounds perfect, right? Dedicated, active, selective; everything you've asked for. Except we wouldn't take you.

I don't say that to be unpleasant, it's simply that you don't meet our entry requirements. We have a skillpoint requirement (which we will waive for exceptional candidates), but we also require five solo kills, two of which are above class. This is a non-negotiable requirement for every Tusker (ever), and as you don't meet that requirement, you can't join. Simple.

Every serious pvp corp will have some version of these requirements, and, being new characters, you will struggle to meet any of them. Even corps that cater to new pvpers (such as Agony Unleashed or the now defunct Blood Money Cartel) have pretty strict standards.

If you really want to join a top pvp corp, do some research. Figure out who you want to join and what there entry requirements are. Then work on meeting those requirements. In the mean time, hang out in their public channel (any serious corp will have one) and let the members get to know you. When the time is right, apply.

As a note, Tuskers never rat NPC's, so tax rate is irrelevant.

Their rats have avatars in local, and drop T2 loot.

We're not looking for ship kills. If we get them it's fine, but we are system pirates. Not Ship Pirates. Now, if you have a system in null sec with a 4-5 indy rating, we will be happy to come over

I'm assuming you're trying to steer this troll into a classic "AFK cloaker" whine, then?

Because, within a margin of error, there is a ZERO percent chance of a Hulk ever mining in null with a neut in local.

Ever.

I can write that program for you

10 Is hulk in POS?
20 Autofill: YES
30 GOTO 10

Also, why is corp tax relevent when you make all your isk from "making websites" and PLEX?

At least get your story straight, dude.

Hmm, this is interesting. I'm going to ignore the flaming because that's not the direction I want this to go in. Yes I am asking how to use the build I have to do 2-3 missions, and yes I was asking how station rules work in 0.0. I'm a geek. I know like 6 programming languages. I one of those losers who really really love to study. So yes, I will be asking a lot of questions, and I'm sure my friends and I will make some mistaskes in null sec, but a couple years from now, if we're still playing, I expect things to be different, and I will be glad I asked all these questions.

Okay, so you say no hulk in low sec. You're right. I once had a miner character. I'm actually pretty experienced in mining, and I know people tend to bring covs out to null sec, or maybe macks? Not sure. Anyway, If neuts are in local, and miners will never go out while this happens, than doesn't this mean our work is cut out for us? If our priority is to drive the industry rating of the system down, than all we need to do is stay cloaked, and maintain a precence. Please understand that I know that we will never be as good as those pvp corps. But I think this system pirating type thing will work for us. That being said, I'm worried about the probe thing.

I envision a setup like this:

Prophecy 100km off a grav site cloaked.
Hound 100km off a asteroid belt OR gate cloaked.
Manticore same as hound
Pilgrim 100km off of station cloaked.

Now, if we are all cloaked simply monitoring that's going on, and I'm watching the station letting my friends know, and recording who is flying what ship, which direction the are going, etc, than there isn't really a huge worry about being killed. We can't be probed out... correct?

So as long as we sit there and maintain a presense in the system, the industrial rating should go down quickly.

What worries me is IF we can be probed out while cloaked.

If your "grand plan" is to lower the Industrial index of one system (why, I have no idea) then you can achieve this by AFK cloaking in any ship you like.

If the industrial rating goes down, the ores available to the alliance/corp will have less worth. This means they will begin to lose more money. They don't want to lose money-- so they will be more likely to pay us-- OR which ever corp hired us as mercs to prey on them will be happy with us because the corp who we are pirating will be more likely to find another place to run their ops.

Basicly we are taking the system for ransom.

a) The industrial rating has **** all to do with anything, except as an indicator of how much ore is mined

b) I actually snorted coffee at this post.

Ya, if they are a Indy IV or V system, than they mine a lot I imagine. This means that if we stop them from mining, we are pushing their cash cow for miners away from the home system. This means they will have a more difficult time making Titans, or w.e else top alliances make. If we tell them that we will not leave until they pay us X amount of money, well basicly they will lose money if the don't pay us.

In that sense, we are pirating just as a pirate would a ship, but instead of taking a ship, we are taking the system.

And wow you guys claim that we're trolls, but if you see something so wrong with our idea, than please tell us, don't sit there and laugh... cuz ur the ones being trolls atm