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ISK for PLEX, with a twist -- ended: all PLEX received
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#41 - 2012-06-21 14:07:36 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Seems like the best plan here is to make 4 alts and keep at the bottom of the bidding until the people who aren't planning to scam are run off. Of course, that runs the risk (if another person is doing the same thing) of reducing the expected yield of the scam to extraordinarily low amounts.

tl;dr I would be shocked to see you get anywhere near 12 Plex at the end of the month.


See, this is not GD. People here are subtler than that.

It's much more possible that someone are underbidding to make the others end up losing more money (translated: get worse loan vs interest to return) than Estel having 4 alts.

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Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
#42 - 2012-06-21 15:03:24 UTC
I must admit that I half-expected to be outbid within hours. Whaddya know.
I blame you, VV; why must you educate people such? :P
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#43 - 2012-06-21 15:10:48 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Seems like the best plan here is to make 4 alts and keep at the bottom of the bidding until the people who aren't planning to scam are run off. Of course, that runs the risk (if another person is doing the same thing) of reducing the expected yield of the scam to extraordinarily low amounts.

tl;dr I would be shocked to see you get anywhere near 12 Plex at the end of the month.


See, this is not GD. People here are subtler than that.

It's much more possible that someone are underbidding to make the others end up losing more money (translated: get worse loan vs interest to return) than Estel having 4 alts.


Sorry, I didn't mean Estel would have alts. I meant that someone else would use alts to try to take the money and run.

I guess I wasn't clear on the actor in that sentence.

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JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#44 - 2012-06-21 15:19:56 UTC
Rebid - 2 @ 482M Isk each.
Naya Sky
Serra Industries
#45 - 2012-06-21 18:27:41 UTC
1@480M

But you are being a bit optimistic if you expect to re-gain all 12 PLEXes back. You really should protect yourself with further steps. >.<
Estel Again
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-06-21 20:35:34 UTC
Post 2 is updated with all bids so far.
Bidding ends at 23:59 tonight!


Naya Sky wrote:
1@480M

But you are being a bit optimistic if you expect to re-gain all 12 PLEXes back. You really should protect yourself with further steps. >.<

You are the highest risk, with your (and your alts') many posts on the Character Bazaar and your few posts on MD.
Naya Sky
Serra Industries
#47 - 2012-06-21 21:43:27 UTC
Estel Again wrote:
Post 2 is updated with all bids so far.
Bidding ends at 23:59 tonight!


Naya Sky wrote:
1@480M

But you are being a bit optimistic if you expect to re-gain all 12 PLEXes back. You really should protect yourself with further steps. >.<

You are the highest risk, with your (and your alts') many posts on the Character Bazaar and your few posts on MD.


Oh wow... I have never been judged so fast (oh wait - I have been). So you see why I don't like to post on MD?

And I have many posts on Character Bazaar? I guess I made a few bids and I think I have bought 3 or 4 characters in my ~5 years playing the game and I have sold two.

But anyway, I retract my bid for the Plex. I don't want to be apart of your venture any more. I have also sent you 50M ISK. Consider it a friendly donation to offset your losses in case you don't get all the PLEXes back.

I'll just go hide under a rock again (with my 'many' alts). I guess since I have 3 accounts nowadays that's a crime on MD?

Good luck with your project.
Estel Again
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-06-21 22:15:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Estel Again
Naya Sky wrote:
I'll just go hide under a rock again (with my 'many' alts). I guess since I have 3 accounts nowadays that's a crime on MD?

Good luck with your project.



I am familiar with just 2 of the bidders; I have to make quick judgements. I do think you were the highest risk to me, but I did accept your bid.

More importantly: you are the one judging others; you are saying Dezolf, Privateer NoBody, JohnathanGalt, or Anton Menges Saddat won't honour the arrangement. I trust that they will, just as I trusted you would have.
Estel Again
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-06-21 23:39:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Estel Again
If there's anyone waiting to snipe (as if): remember there's no sniper rule.

Edit: bids closed. I will hand over isk later today!
Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
#50 - 2012-06-22 09:08:22 UTC
Woo! I win!
Also, my last exam was today, and I passed (...barely), so everything is awesome!

Looking forward to giving you 2 PLEX'es Estel!
Privateer NoBody
Doomheim
#51 - 2012-06-22 18:53:31 UTC
Isk recieved and note in diary to buy plex

Thanks

PN
Estel Again
Doomheim
#52 - 2012-06-22 19:02:14 UTC
Yup, just sent the ISK.

Screenshot: http://eve-files.com/dl/255464
(apologies for the quality)
JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#53 - 2012-06-22 19:57:08 UTC
Please note that I recieved 1,446,000,000 isk, even though my offer was for 2 PLEX @ 483M = 966,000,000. I am currently at work, but will return the overage to Estel this evening. Unless it was a donation, in which case let me know and I will put it to work :).
Estel Again
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-06-22 20:09:08 UTC
I fail at basic math; made the same mistake with Anton.

Just return the excess isk at your earliest convenience OR supply me with 3 PLEX instead of 2. The choice is yours.
Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
#55 - 2012-06-22 23:38:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Dezolf
Posting to confirm that I've received 850 million ISK from Estel Again at 18:36 eve time.
JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#56 - 2012-07-03 14:59:51 UTC
I should have written here earlier, but I have decided to keep the amount given and return three Plex at the end of the term. The isk is hard at work making everyone money Big smile
JohnathanGalt
Northern Sky Industries
#57 - 2012-07-18 04:39:15 UTC
3 Plex contracted to Estel Again tonight, 7 day window. Thanks for the confidence Estel! See screenshot below.

Trading update from the original amount: after buying the three Plex:

Sell Orders Current : 1,355,847,367
Buy Orders Current: 92,812,917
Cash on Hand: 93,082,158

Plex Contract
Estel Again
Doomheim
#58 - 2012-07-18 08:34:10 UTC
Thank you JohnathanGalt, PLEX received.
Anton Menges Saddat
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#59 - 2012-07-18 12:55:24 UTC
I have contracted 3 Plex to Estel Again at Jita 4-4 with a 7-day window. Thanks for the opportunity and trust :)

http://i.imgur.com/Thef0.jpg
Estel Again
Doomheim
#60 - 2012-07-18 13:42:30 UTC
Thank you Anton Menges Saddat, PLEX received.