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Time to split the game?

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Oxford Longman
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-06-19 10:48:58 UTC
Just by typing the title I can feel the angry hordes forming to storm the battlements.....

Eve appears to be filled with players who passionately disagree about what Eve actually is or should be. The often used description of "Sand box" game Is used to reinforce whatever point the person is trying to make in each forum post often at the expense of the other. On and on process cycles.


I am tired of the endless pantomime cycle of "Hi sec is safe" ..." oh no it isn't" debates that fill the forums. ( what? like this one! quote .lol)

Is it time to split the game in two? Have an "eve-lite" for thoses who want to look at nice spaceship pixels and do safe missioning and stuff and have a separate main eve game that has no hi sec, only low sec and null sec - or just a game with null only?

But that will kill the game.... Which version? Which sand box?

Brb... Theres a large group of people at my door, hmmm..... Seem angry about something......

P.s.

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#2 - 2012-06-19 10:50:22 UTC
And... here... we.... go.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2012-06-19 10:50:38 UTC
Oxford Longman wrote:
Is it time to split the game in two? Have an "eve-lite" for thoses who want to look at nice spaceship pixels and do safe missioning and stuff
It's called Sisi.

No-one goes there because, predictably, it's entirely pointless.
Kacer Xenro
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-19 10:51:46 UTC
Inbefore the shitstorm.

Look what happened to Ultima Online, or the wilderness in Runespace, you're bad and so is your idea.
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-19 10:51:50 UTC
get out
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-06-19 11:10:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
Tippia wrote:
Oxford Longman wrote:
Is it time to split the game in two? Have an "eve-lite" for thoses who want to look at nice spaceship pixels and do safe missioning and stuff
It's called Sisi.

No-one goes there because, predictably, it's entirely pointless.


+1 with Tippia on this one, got to have risk and consequences for it to be meaningfull for me.



[cynicism]

Though I will agree there is merit to split the playerbase into two shards:

Shard 1: Mature players who are capable of respectfully extending the sandbox to others and understand the symbiosis of interests but can expect and accept some aspects of gameplay outside of their control.

Shard 2: Selfish Asshats with unhealthy Meta interests where "winning at all costs" is the only consideration.

Though I'm unsure wether it has a comercial future as realistically I would see shard 2 as a minority populace, but if it's sustainable? Roll

[/cynicism]



Ideally as a playerbase however, we need to work at this together rather than entertaining and fueling any kind of "us and them" mentalities.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-06-19 11:13:15 UTC
In before ...
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#8 - 2012-06-19 11:13:33 UTC
Splitting will only mail it a fail box, not a sand box.

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-06-19 11:14:07 UTC
Fortunatly it wont work :) what makes eve work is its market, and the thing that drives it is people losing theyre ships.

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-19 11:16:12 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
get out

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-06-19 11:17:45 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
get out




brb
Mersault
Blue Nine Industries
#12 - 2012-06-19 11:24:38 UTC
Yes OP it is indeed time for you to split the game.

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Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
#13 - 2012-06-19 11:25:58 UTC
Only thing that ruins the game is meta gaming. It's like punching someone in the face while playing backgammon.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2012-06-19 11:27:07 UTC
Yes, lets name them Felucca and Trammel and the way from each to the other is wormholes.

Surely that ended well for UO. Oh wait.

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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#15 - 2012-06-19 11:27:36 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Mara Tessidar wrote:
get out





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Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-06-19 11:29:32 UTC
Came here to say: get out.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#17 - 2012-06-19 11:38:12 UTC
Anyone who actually went to this other shard where nothing ever gets blown up and all people do is mine and other forms of PVE would soon realise that they wouldn't have much use for whatever amounts of ISK they could get into their wallets. Nothing would ever be destroyed, except for the odd mistake in missions and the market would nosedive into the ground.

I'd give it a month or two tops before they started wondering why they bothered. In reality I doubt that many would actually go there since a lot of those who do industrial stuff recognize and enjoy the aspects of the game that make their efforts pay off.

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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#18 - 2012-06-19 11:41:30 UTC
Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception.

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-06-19 11:43:18 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception.

Get out.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#20 - 2012-06-19 11:46:25 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception.



Dumbest thing ever said on the forums. Even more so then the OP, and that's saying something.

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