EVE General Discussion

I have been reading many arguments about the pvp community telling players how to play EvE. So I have a question to the pve community itself, note not all of the pve community is included in this question.

I have heard a lot of pve miners who say to leave them alone in mining in high sec. Stating that mining in high sec is a easy to to play without playing. Having heard someone once state " mining in high sec is the easiest way for me to play while doing homework".I have read many statements just like that. Where people want to have an area where they can afk or not have to pay little attention to there game while they progress at the task at hand.

Question: what other mmo actually allows you to do that?

From my years of playing a wide varity of mmo's I have yet to find one that allows what you suggest to actually take place. In fact the only way I have seen that happen is through botting. Which if I remember correctly there is not a mmo in the world that allows a player to do that.

So basically you came to one of the most violent and grief filled pvp games in the world and ask to be left alone. Seeing how this is not WoW or any other mmo that dosen't have random mobs popping up on u at every second, or a separate pve sever for you to play on, which even in games like that u still have to pay attention to your screen and actively play the game. I mean this is no different execept that instead of an npc mob attacking u while u gather its a player.

So please help me understand, in short you came to a strictly pvp driven game and ask to make it safe for you to pve mine with no worries of any negative repercussions?

Here's another mind bender. If you are afk mining, are you really playing the game?

I wonder if he's playing the same game we are playing.

I do occasionally do some PVE. It pays for my PLEX when warfare loot doesn't. But the vast majority of my gameplay is PVP.

Please state a source that was authored from someone currently working for CCP.

We do not exist. It is all in your imagination.

When mining, I'm using "2 Hulks and an Orca". Every possible skill is on 5, so things happen rather rapidly. Between dealing with the ore (I don't use Cargohold Exp's so one cycle is all it takes to fill up), keeping an eye on Local and looking for anything nearby to suddenly warp in or decloak, and dealing with warping the Orca to and fro, and changing rocks as they are eaten so quickly, I honestly don't stop moving while mining. Hours at a time.

Those who don't pay attention, do lose ships and then do whine on here in GD. That I don't like. If they want to risk destruction of their mining vessels, that's fine by me. I've only had to 'flee' once in the 18 months since the last time I lost a mining ship, and that was due to a nearby decloak and insta-target/scram. I watched the whole thing wide awake at keyboard.

What I do have issues with is folks like this: the 2 Mackinaws with no Orca support that would fill up and then warp back and forth for TWENTY-THREE HOURS straight. For days. I got so over the Overview jumping around constantly, I finally used my PvP alt to pop the both of them. Idiots.

Don't hate the miners. Hate the whiners.

A gross mistake most people do is to believe they know what drives somebody else to play EvE or - even worse - arrogate themselves the inalienable right to decide how EvE must be played "to be truly played as it should".

Just widen your horizons, there are thousands of players each playing EvE *perfectly* since they set up their own goals and follow them.

Yes, even the crappiest AFK miner got goals. Maybe you don't like them, you believe he's not playing the game as YOU think he should but in the meantime that AFK miner could be aspiring to create his little niche in the killboards with his FW main, or wants to grind some ISK to buy BPOS or whatever.

The game mechanics might suck and be boring - a matter of realism, you don't have fun while flipping burgers or painting walls - it's the self objective that counts.

I have met miners with -2.6 sec status. They have just 1 account and AFK mine when at work so they can use the same character to buy a ship and get to low sec and gank stuff later.

Embrace variety, not everybody HAS to play as you think he should or has to share your pro objectives.



Personal example: I rarely log in in EvE. I don't need to. I have won the "become a trusted collateral holder / 3rd party" metagame and now I hold 3rd party amounts sometimes up to 135B.
I also like trading, sometimes I do that. Some times I am in a strange mood and do a L4 mission or scan an anomaly. Or go visit PL monument in Amamake.
I play EvE the way that made me succeed at all my objectives.

Only missed target was being in a nice low sec / 0.0 PvP corp. I found it, I loved it every minute and then I stopped having the RL time to be worthwhile in there so I resigned. But that's not due to EvE.

Play while doing homework or housework? Lots of them.

Off the top of my head: Guild Wars. World of Warcraft. The Old Republic.

Why did you come to the largest economic simulator and demand to fight all the time?
It's all in the perspective.

It wouldn't be much of an economy simulator if it didn't involve that, now would it?