EVE General Discussion

Most people are wrong.

When combat occurs, losses are made by a player. Players who sell items on the market to replace those items directly affect how severe the loss occurred is depending on the prices they set, and have a direct effect on the pvp player. So far market competition directly affects the combat player, for it to truly be pvp the combat player must continue to be allowed to have an effect on the industrialists themselves.

Gankers have there place. They have made a major step in controlling the high sec Macro, and AFK folks. More power to them for having an impact on this.

But if your on the receiving end of these ganks, Pay attention. Same guy hits you more than once, you can probably force a ban under the harassment clause of the EULA. If you think it's the same guy with different toons, report it. GM's can easily check to see if all the toons are being driven from the same I/P address.

Now listen, I've never thought that ganking should be nerfed. Even suicide ganking, it serves a purpose. I just think that once you've done it, you earn your self an extended stay in low sec. until you fix your security status to what's appropriate to return. that's all. Sorry just the way I feel.

But miners need to grow up! Listen if the gankers aren't liking low sec, where might you think a good place for you may be?
Low sec has a lot going for it. A group of miners if organized, could mine there easily. Once you have organized your system of blues, and start actually working together, AFK mining there could be much safer than AFK high sec mining. But it's also not a brain dead bed of roses as most AFK'ers would like. In regards to recent events I think it's entirely plausible this could be a much safer area to operate in. Doesn't mean you wont ever have to dock up if real pirates come calling. But they can't bubble the station in low sec.

Quit trying to **** in the sandbox.

When someone advertises is corp as a PvP corp...most people know what this mean. I`m sure you do to Zim.

Thanks m8! You are a great guy yourself.

I really couldn't care less if what "most people" think of as PVP is limited to shooting other people, the fact of the matter is that everything, and I mean literally everything you do in EVE, is PVP. Even mining is. I've driven a guy out of an asteroid belt by mining out the rock he was mining of repeatedly, I've owned a guy by driving the price up on an item then dumping a fucktonne of the items into one guy's buy order, then watch the prices dwindle back down to 50% of what he bought it for.

Everything is PVP. You being bad at word definitions doesn't change that.

Player versus player (PvP):
A style of gameplay that pits players against each other in a competition.

NOWHERE in that definition do I see the words fighting, ganking, pewpewing, slaughtering, or teabagging.

Can we stop linking market competition and PvP together?

They're a few in this crowd that will never let that concept ever be considered. The biggest reason is it would be terrible for the universe, (I jest).

But consider this. It's true that the two are very closely connected. The Dev's do level this almost continuously. Most people never consider this, but in months gone past, large amounts of ISK, have been pretty easy to come by, too easy actually. This is one of the reasons there are too many super capitals, many more than I think CCP ever planed on having. The game required leveling in this area, at least in my opinion. I think this is the primary driving force in the state of EvE these days.

This game is CCP's bread and butter, Dust at this point in time, is simply venture. It may or may not make bank.

The leveling never stops, it can't. If it doesn't occur the pendulum swings too far in any given direction. The net, is lost subscriptions. IMHO the pendulum is starting to be pushed the other way, just wait and see.

You cannot play the game without the account being paid for — the amount of ISK a person has makes no difference whatsoever.