EVE General Discussion

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I play EVE for the extended camping sessions required to kill a target. Nothing beats sitting around doing nothing but watching a target on a neutral scout for hours on end hoping they undock and go through a gate unscouted. It's epic.

And of course talking smack on the forums about how hardcore EVE is when we do it.

Is CONCORD that server intensive?

Oh, Gawd, that was SWTOR in a nutshell, it really should have just been KOTOR 3. MMOs in general are turning into XBOX live games running at $15 a month.




Early EVE highsec was basically lowsec as we know it today with tankable CONCORD. Problem was tankable CONCORD+ human tendency to be dicks=mass unsubs. Lowsec, meanwhile, didn't have sentry guns at all (plus the money actually made it worth the risk going there).

I think highsec should exist in some way or form just because everyone needs a place to go when they've hit rock bottom, corp or individual wise and get back on their feet before venturing out again, and it does make a good place for trade and meeting new people and allies.

I don't think it should be a full-on substitute for going into the wilderness though. That's where EVE's starts to sour, when highsec goes from "Breathing room" to "Gated community" and the residents think they've checked the PvE box as long as they stay above 0.4.

OP doesn't live in nullsec apparently.

damn production slots are always full out there, too >.<

OP knew coming in that this was a primarily pvp oriented game.

I have trouble believing anyone who comes to this game doesn't already know that. So why is it so hard to accept the losses, IF YOU ALREADY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN?

So CCP needs to nerf suicide ganking? Yeah, that's what they were saying too.

Along with "irrelevant" and "no effect".

PVP does NOT mean combat, when will you thick people ever learn? PVP is ANYTHING that puts you in competition with other players, and that means pretty much everything in Eve.

Nullsec is not dead with 'almost no fighting', anyone who thinks this clearly does not live in nullsec. Ganking has always been rife in Empire, it is simply more documented now.

People are not unsubbing in their thousands, that is a ridiculous thing to say. SOme people have unsubbed, clearly Eve didnt suit them, no problem. Some people are saying they will unsub (repeatedly) but not actually leaving. The vast majority of people are just carrying on in Eve just like we always have, adapting, surviving and enjoying teh game.

Some people just never get the MMORPG Sandbox concept, their minds are locked into the EQ/WoW Themepark model and can't escape. Pity them.

This argument is so old. I used to play Jumpgate by red devil, a space twitch based Sandbox back in 2000 before Eve. I say even more sandbox than eve as realtime joystick skills were required and not some facet of clicking. Anyway, the same discussions were constantly whined about in that. Mightygames who were the EU company who ran the EU server were very active in marshalling the game, and took great stock in regularly banning people who civ ripped as it was called then. The favourite being roll a newb alt rip someone then roll new one keep hitting same player with lots of smack talk to boot.



You could 'civ rip' players in regulated faction space but you got a massive in game penalty for doing so, a negative sec rating and also being unable to dock in regulated space stations for a period of days which you had to work off by either flying and docking up in unreg space or simply just not logging in for a number of days you were also harried by npc police. Thing was in that game that RP was way more skilled than EVE. Pirates would always charge a POD for safe passage before ripping someone and in regulated (Eve Hi Sec) the faction aligned player base would hunt down any miscreants in their regulated space. We dont as far as I can see have an Amarr defence force or Caldari player corps who literally hunt down all bounty players in their federation space. I do not see any of this in EVE, players dont attack Red bountied players readily and the Gate system and 0km warp jumping allows these people to move about HI sec space and EVE generally way way to easily. This works both ways of course as it also means fast civ pilots can do the same I appreciate that.



Eve needs firstly a rival big corp to the Goons as they hold far too much influence, but where on earth do you start here as they are so rich and have alliances with a massive amount of players on the server. Secondly a system that allows bountied players to even dock in hi sec space is completly wrong. You should have to go and run and hide in low sec as your miscreant tag rightly means, why should someone with a negative status be allowed to stroll in and dock and use the mkt facilities etc? Thirdly we need to try and encourage Faction Corps who sole purpose is to protect their hi sec space areas from scum!



I lost my first hulk about 4 weeks back, admitedly un tanked, but it was first ever hulk, I had only come back to Eve in the last month from my last time playing in 2003! and wasn't really up to speed on Hulkageddon and what I should be doing so big wake up call. Almost broke me as well, but I certainly didnt whine about it, I laughed with the guys that got me and they even suggested tanking mods and so on and they are now on my friends list. Anyway i'm now tanked , I check local, have waypoints way a way from 0 points and am very cautious in what I do which I have no problem with, I have avoided 3 ganks since and its fun for me I cant deny it, the element of risk is great.



This is a sandbox afterall we all make the content, a couple of thoughts above I think would improve things a little, I certainly wouldn't want to be safe in space anywhere, but bountied pilots docking in Hi sec is the first thing that is wrong in Eve. But like anything there are the tools to fight back, it's just if someone high up and rich in the game wants to push it that way! me with my meagre few hundred mill and rusty 2nd hulk isnt that person LOL.