EVE General Discussion

Everyone vs Everything

EVE

…largely because it has been true since roughly forever, and doesn't become any less true just because it's old. It's not me justifying any position — it's me telling you simple facts. In the context of EVE, PvP means what PvP always means: player vs. player. In EVE, in particular, this extents to every activity in the game since you're always competing against other players in one way or another.

Yes? That's how synonyms work. What's your problem with the statement?

We already have a solution for that. We call those activities “combat”. It's a perfectly cromulent word. Occasionally, you clarify it by calling it “PvP combat” to separate it from ratting, but the term ratting already provides that differentiation so it's not hugely needed.

I super undercut the market constantly, because I don't pay attention to it enough to really know how fast items move; so I undercut to get the traders to buy it.

Works well in my opinion, I'm not sitting on inventory I don't want, traders get a unit or 2 they can sell with great margins...

So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP

"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"

Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?

You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail to see that.

Wether or not people admit it, the majority of ships and ammo are produced by EMPIRE based corporations selling at market hubs. Then hulkageddon comes in, the corps stop mining, thousands quit (which they have) and the prices of everything sky rockets. PvP in null drops off to the point where Null Sec generally is dead and empty apart from hubs where alliance members congagrate like puppies around its mother.

However, there is a massive rise in ganking in empire, the question is why? The answer is simple, guarenteed kill on the KB, concord kills you, that doesnt show up on the killboards and you get 100mil+ of loot from haulers. So why risk your ass in null when you can do it easily in empire? You wouldnt. But the penalty for this action is tiny. So there is no *risk vs reward* factor involved.

So you have mining, npc faction missions, epic arc missions, ded sites, anomolys, scannable sites, pve to the max, my question is this

This is a not a PVP DRIVEN game, it is an all round game and right now we have half the player base trying to make the rest of the playerbase (the pve pilots) play as they do i.e *mummy he wont play with me, make him play with me*.

So why do u maintain the fiction that it is? Why do you not PROTECT PAYING CUSTOMERS who have no interest in PvP as a whole and just like to make ISK and have fun THERE WAY.

Why? If you want it to be a PVP game, set 3 systems in each empire as safe zones and make the rest null sec. Force people to join alliances and to PvP, the answer is you can't because if everyone on this server was fighting non stop, your server would fail misrably. Why do you not protect the players who want to play a game they pay for there way?

No doubt this will get trolled by every forum idiot but the point is valid

If you want a PvP game, remove the PvE content, revamp the game and make it pure PVP, stop screwing people over, take there money and laugh when they get ganked for no reason at all other than they have a cov ops in there hauler there moving to there new home.

PvP pilots need to sod off back to null sec and leave empire pilots alone to there own business.

Period.

So, ive spent the last week trying to figure out this statement by CCP

"We don't interfere in EvE Because its is a player driven PVP game"

Right, taken that information in and assessed it, result, you what?

You say that EvE is PvP driven, i fail to see that.

Wether or not people admit it, the majority of ships and ammo are produced by EMPIRE based corporations selling at market hubs. Then hulkageddon comes in, the corps stop mining, thousands quit (which they have) and the prices of everything sky rockets. PvP in null drops off to the point where Null Sec generally is dead and empty apart from hubs where alliance members congagrate like puppies around its mother.

However, there is a massive rise in ganking in empire, the question is why? The answer is simple, guarenteed kill on the KB, concord kills you, that doesnt show up on the killboards and you get 100mil+ of loot from haulers. So why risk your ass in null when you can do it easily in empire? You wouldnt. But the penalty for this action is tiny. So there is no *risk vs reward* factor involved.

So you have mining, npc faction missions, epic arc missions, ded sites, anomolys, scannable sites, pve to the max, my question is this

This is a not a PVP DRIVEN game, it is an all round game and right now we have half the player base trying to make the rest of the playerbase (the pve pilots) play as they do i.e *mummy he wont play with me, make him play with me*.

So why do u maintain the fiction that it is? Why do you not PROTECT PAYING CUSTOMERS who have no interest in PvP as a whole and just like to make ISK and have fun THERE WAY.

Why? If you want it to be a PVP game, set 3 systems in each empire as safe zones and make the rest null sec. Force people to join alliances and to PvP, the answer is you can't because if everyone on this server was fighting non stop, your server would fail misrably. Why do you not protect the players who want to play a game they pay for there way?

No doubt this will get trolled by every forum idiot but the point is valid

If you want a PvP game, remove the PvE content, revamp the game and make it pure PVP, stop screwing people over, take there money and laugh when they get ganked for no reason at all other than they have a cov ops in there hauler there moving to there new home.

PvP pilots need to sod off back to null sec and leave empire pilots alone to there own business.

Period.