EVE General Discussion

tea bagging is dipping your male genitalia into the mouth of your [insert relationship here] like you would if you were trying to make 4 cups of tea with only one tea bag. You dip it in a couple of times and move on.

Anyway .. No body shoot anything for 1 day. - See how messed up the Universe becomes!

No, it couldn't be, because the market doesn't work that way.

NPCs don't sell ships. What he's talking about is the pure PvP nature of the market, where you can keep people from making money pretty much indefinitely if you can be bothered to.

Sometimes I learn stuff in the EVE-O Forums

Clearly it is hard - competing is not the same as PvP. Go play BSG Online for your PvP, because in that game there's no market competition.

Yes? And? That just means it's not a PvP market.
In EVE, we do have a PvP market, because you're always competing against other players for the best deals.

Hell, even when you trade with NPCs (in the very few instances when they have a market presence), the price will be affected by other players' actions (and their interactions with said NPC traders will be affected by yours).

From Thesaurus.com

Versus
Definition: against
Synonyms: alternative, contrast, vs


Competing
Definition: to go up against in contest
Synonyms: attempt, bandy, battle, be in the running, bid, challenge, clash, collide, contend, contest, cope with, emulate, encounter, essay, face, fence, fight, go after, go for broke, go for the gold, go for, grapple, in the hunt, jockey for position, joust, lock horns, match strength, match wits, oppose, participate in, pit oneself against, play, rival, run for, scramble for, seek prize, spar, strive, struggle, take on, take part, tilt, try, tussle, vie, wrestle

Contest
Definition: fight
Synonyms: altercate, attack, battle, brawl, break with, buck, compete, conflict, contend, cross, defend, duel, feud, fight over, gang up on, hassle, knuckle with, lay a finger on, lay out, put on gloves, put up dukes, quarrel, repel, rival, row, rumpus, scrap, scuffle, set to, sock, square off, strike, struggle, take on, tilt, traverse, vie, withstand, wrangle


If anything, "competing" sounds more like their definition of PvP.

Competing against other players in the market. Sounds like pvp to me.

PvP = Player vs Player not player kills player. A player going up against another player in any activity is pvp.

Well not unless you call it player vs everyone.

…largely because it has been true since roughly forever, and doesn't become any less true just because it's old. It's not me justifying any position — it's me telling you simple facts. In the context of EVE, PvP means what PvP always means: player vs. player. In EVE, in particular, this extents to every activity in the game since you're always competing against other players in one way or another.

Yes? That's how synonyms work. What's your problem with the statement?

We already have a solution for that. We call those activities “combat”. It's a perfectly cromulent word. Occasionally, you clarify it by calling it “PvP combat” to separate it from ratting, but the term ratting already provides that differentiation so it's not hugely needed.