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"Self-destruction," When will it be changed?

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MrYogi Lee
Czarna-Kompania
Czarna-Kompania.
#1 - 2012-06-16 11:31:59 UTC
Hello

Self-destruction, sometimes useful thing, but not during a fight!

Needs to be changed to stop the paranoia that exists in EVE, where the fleet carriers or dreds, doing self-destruction and the KB is perhaps 1-2 ships, but in fact fell in 10 times as much.

In most cases, when a small gang, attack carriers or dreads it ends in self-destruction, because in 2 minutes are not able to kill him.

This spoils the statistics KB, but also causes doubt in the sense of the game among players.

My proposals for changes:

When the vessel is lock target, or in a bubble, it is not possible to attach self-destruction.
If self-destruction was included earlier, in the meantime, the ship will be lock target or in a bubble, self-destruction turns off.

Significantly improved by all the fun.

Another option is when the ship will receive some DMG and it will activate the self-destruction is the killboard (auto api)

CCP what you say?

Regards
M

Ps. sorry for my English
Danfen Fenix
#2 - 2012-06-16 11:35:14 UTC
Instead of blocking it due to lock etc, you may as well give the roll to one of the jammer modules. Then it's up to the fleet if they want to bring the ability to prevent it P
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2012-06-16 11:54:06 UTC
People actually use the self destruct feature so they don't appear on a killboard? That's kind of pathetic, really Roll

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Cpt Pugwash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-06-16 11:54:14 UTC
Self Desrtucting to prevent enemy getting loot or satisfaction of the kill etc is perfectly legitimate.

Petition CCP to give you a killmail even when a ship self destructs if you care so much about it but don't ask for a perfectly legit game device to me removed because you cannot live without your precious killmail.

Even Starfleet vessels have a self destruct mechanism and they are about as carebear as they come
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-06-16 11:55:59 UTC
Did you get loot?

Did you get a wreck?

Just screenshot the fight, save it and quit whining.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#6 - 2012-06-16 12:41:56 UTC
kill things faster
Malacath Azaria
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-06-16 12:57:00 UTC
Morganta wrote:
kill things faster


Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#8 - 2012-06-16 13:04:06 UTC
Morganta wrote:
kill things faster


But!

Quote:
Thou shalt not kill


Straight

So close...

Ariel Dawn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-06-16 13:05:34 UTC
You care way, way too much about killboards is the issue, not self-destructing.
Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
#10 - 2012-06-16 13:07:53 UTC
Because of Killboard

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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#11 - 2012-06-16 13:12:54 UTC
It's another form of PvP OP, stop whimpering you lost.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-06-16 13:14:00 UTC
Self destructing must be extremely satisfactory if it extracts such tears from the OP
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Klown Walk
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-06-16 13:16:36 UTC
Can´t wait to be stuck somewhere until dt because they wont kill my pod and I can´t self destruct.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#14 - 2012-06-16 13:22:54 UTC
Klown Walk wrote:
Can´t wait to be stuck somewhere until dt because they wont kill my pod and I can´t self destruct.


or spend a few hours in a scrammed carrier while team B tries to round up enough DPS to finish you off Roll
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#15 - 2012-06-16 15:07:31 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Klown Walk wrote:
Can´t wait to be stuck somewhere until dt because they wont kill my pod and I can´t self destruct.


or spend a few hours in a scrammed carrier while team B tries to round up enough DPS to finish you off Roll

I don't think anyone wants self destructs removed entirely, however two minute SDs for both rifters and wyverns makes little sense. SD timers should scale with ship size.

The fact that fights don't happen because people just self destruct is kind of sad, plus it just encourages blobbing. I know quite a few people who have just hit self destruct instead of crying for help or trying to get people to save them. I mean its just a carrier, you can grind out the ISK for a replacement in under a day, there is no real reason not to self destruct.

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Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-06-16 15:24:36 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
People actually use the self destruct feature so they don't appear on a killboard? That's kind of pathetic, really Roll


Let's face it, there are a lot of people who act like assholes in this game, can't really blame someone for wanting to deny them a kill.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-06-16 15:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
No I think CCP should improve self destruct and make it an actual tactic.
Self destruct should do damage to ships around it like a smart bomb except a lot bigger depending on the ship size.

I could care less if it is on a kill mail but if people want it I don't see any reason why not.

But definitely make a self destruct an actual tactic if need be.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-06-16 15:48:56 UTC
Remove KMs. This will solve your [personal] problem.Smile
clamslayer
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-06-16 15:52:39 UTC  |  Edited by: clamslayer
Self destructing is a tactical choice and should not be removed or result in a kill mail. Being able to destroy your ship to deny your enemy loot, salvage, and killmail/intel is a valid tactic.

the only change that i could understand is the length of timer based on the size of the ship. also, the message that all players on grid see when one initiates self destruct should be removed and damage should be dealt to any other ship near an explosion from self destruct or combat.

Edit: remove insurance pay out as well
Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-06-16 16:27:17 UTC
Morganta wrote:
kill things faster

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