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New dev blog: Clothing and Aurum additions for Inferno 1.1

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Murashu
Dead and Delirious
Brotherhood of Spacers
#141 - 2012-06-15 20:42:49 UTC
I 'm glad that you are finally releasing new clothing, but does everything have to be a part of a military uniform? I've been in the Army for 22 years and the last thing I want to wear when I'm relaxing around the house is a uniform. When can we expect to see something non-militant?
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2012-06-15 20:44:07 UTC
CCP Unifex wrote:
Anvil44 wrote:
...Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' as time and resources permit. Most people currently dress little differently in the Eve universe than they do today in the real world. With so many people in the eve universe (not just pod pilots but the poor land-locked saps as well), clothing should be all over the place in styles and colours.

Be nice to have more varied choices available in general as well since pod pilots should have access to stuff all the time. They are the elite of humanity in the Eve universe.


If this test proves successful this is exactly the kind of thing I would like to investigate.


Will those outfits that were available on SiSi a few months ago be in the Tuesday release? They looked quite futuristic to me
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#143 - 2012-06-15 20:52:19 UTC
I think you should make it so you can view the full body avatars here on the forums as well like you can in the game where you can spin them and so on. Might get people to buy even more of the clothing and so on if we could see them full body in the forum as well. Dunno if would actually be possible, but it is a thought.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#144 - 2012-06-15 20:53:24 UTC
Mechael wrote:
See, that's one thing that the previous CSM seemed to get all wrong. The primary source of outrage wasn't that CCP was developing ambulation ... sorry, Incarna ... instead of spaceships. The primary source of outrage was "Monoclegate" which, incidentally, had very little to do with outrageous prices and everything to do with real money prices in a sandbox game. It's about the most un-EVE-like thing I can think of off the top of my head, right up there with elves, magic missiles, level 4 missions, and consequence-free death.

By all means, give us a useful way of existing outside of our pods. But don't tie it (or anything else outside of our subscriptions) in with the size of our real-world bank accounts. That's what the subscription fee is for. Keep the sandbox pure.


I thought the outrage was because CCP spent millions of dollars and years of developer time on what was supposed to be a really cool project, and instead all we got was a rusty studio apartment with trash on the floor that we couldn't pick up.

We couldn't even have people hang out, not that we wanted to with that mess on the floor.

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Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#145 - 2012-06-15 20:53:41 UTC
So long as skins never hit ships, and the items are WiS cosmetic, im cool with this.
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#146 - 2012-06-15 21:00:10 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Mechael wrote:
See, that's one thing that the previous CSM seemed to get all wrong. The primary source of outrage wasn't that CCP was developing ambulation ... sorry, Incarna ... instead of spaceships. The primary source of outrage was "Monoclegate" which, incidentally, had very little to do with outrageous prices and everything to do with real money prices in a sandbox game. It's about the most un-EVE-like thing I can think of off the top of my head, right up there with elves, magic missiles, level 4 missions, and consequence-free death.

By all means, give us a useful way of existing outside of our pods. But don't tie it (or anything else outside of our subscriptions) in with the size of our real-world bank accounts. That's what the subscription fee is for. Keep the sandbox pure.


I thought the outrage was because CCP spent millions of dollars and years of developer time on what was supposed to be a really cool project, and instead all we got was a rusty studio apartment with trash on the floor that we couldn't pick up.

We couldn't even have people hang out, not that we wanted to with that mess on the floor.


Yeah, I remember watching the focus visibly shift of the course of a few months from, "WTF GET MICROTRANSACTIONS OUT OF THE ******* SANDBOX!" to "Why u no build spaceship? Why Incarna so bad?"

I think that most of EVE has been the proverbial frog boiled in a pot. Turn the temp up slowly enough and it won't even realize it's dying.

Ah well. If this microtransaction **** gets out of hand (read: anything beyond PLEX and clothing items,) I'm gone. If custom paint jobs for your ships (when they're released) are priced in Aurum, I'm gone. Aurum needs to be removed, and failing that it needs to be left alone to fade away into obscurity.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#147 - 2012-06-15 21:00:33 UTC
I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY
Lyron-Baktos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2012-06-15 21:08:24 UTC
The rage was because of several reasons
1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better
2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage
3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here
4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"

If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#149 - 2012-06-15 21:12:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Mechael
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
The rage was because of several reasons
1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better
2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage
3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here
4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"

If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned


All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period.

EDIT: I remember back when PLEX came out and how outraged I was then. I still don't like PLEX much. Anything that can give someone an in-game advantage for real-world currency does not belong in EVE. I'm willing to grumble quietly about PLEX without actually quitting EVE because, well, at least it's not something like Aurum.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2012-06-15 21:12:13 UTC
steam workshop for eve please :)

player designed, ccp approved clothes, hairstyles, furniture, ship logos,...

once approved, the designer gets X percent of all sales (maybe only in aurum, which can also be used to buy plex from ccp)
Maul555
Xen Investments
#151 - 2012-06-15 21:12:33 UTC
I approve of this move. May New Eden be well dressed.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#152 - 2012-06-15 21:16:28 UTC
Mechael wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
The rage was because of several reasons
1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better
2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage
3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here
4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"

If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned


All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period.


If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money.

They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things?
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#153 - 2012-06-15 21:18:38 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
Mechael wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
The rage was because of several reasons
1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better
2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage
3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here
4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"

If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned


All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period.


If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money.

They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things?


It already is pay-to-win. You can buy something with real-life money (that comes from literally nowhere, and certainly wasn't made by another player) and then sell it for ISK. How is this not pay-to-win?

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2012-06-15 21:19:57 UTC
Ribikoka wrote:
I see the butique with cloths more importants than ship balances in internet spaceship game. YAY


Oh stop it. They are working on ship balancing and have had these clothes done for months. Besides it is not just and internet spaceship game. It is a sandbox which has spaceships and planets and stations and space people who don't want to go naked. 
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Heather Sunstar
Meta Holdings Corporation
#155 - 2012-06-15 21:20:02 UTC
How about making AUR convertible to something actually useful (clothing for a digital character is not useful) like ISK?

We know you got the fashion industry into EVE... but in case you didn't notice alot of computer geeks/nerds play EVE online and we've never been that metrosexual.

The fact of it is from the number of players who have told me they play EVE nude or in their underwear... characters should be able to go unclothed.

"any way I could use AUR and buy my old Inventory UI back ?"

I would second that motion... and request at least getting a button back on the EVE toolbar... it was doing just fine there.
PinkKnife
The Cuddlefish
Ethereal Dawn
#156 - 2012-06-15 21:22:32 UTC
Mechael wrote:
PinkKnife wrote:
Mechael wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
The rage was because of several reasons
1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better
2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage
3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here
4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"

If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned


All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period.


If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money.

They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things?


It already is pay-to-win. You can buy something with real-life money (that comes from literally nowhere, and certainly wasn't made by another player) and then sell it for ISK. How is this not pay-to-win?


I'm not talking about using Plex, I'm talking about microtransactions for avatar things.

Plex is a different scenario.
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#157 - 2012-06-15 21:23:59 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
Mechael wrote:
PinkKnife wrote:
Mechael wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
The rage was because of several reasons
1. So much time/resources spent on WIS stuff and what we got was ****. Captains quarters was all we got. If CCP had delivered a much better WIS product, it would have been better
2. NEX prices were outrageous. More affordable prices would not have caused much rage
3. CEO's email bragging about making money from NEX. lol, no comment needed here
4. Overall thought of Eve turning into "pay to win"

If CCP had managed these issues better, Jita would not have burned


All of that stuff was poorly handled, absolutely. The root problem though is that microtransactions do not belong in a game like EVE. Period.


If I want to pay money to play spaceship barbie what problem do you have with it. No one is forcing you to do it, or to pay money.

They have said, multiple times, in very large font, it won't be pay to win. Are you that tin-foil-hat'ed that you won't believe devs when they blatantly tell you things?


It already is pay-to-win. You can buy something with real-life money (that comes from literally nowhere, and certainly wasn't made by another player) and then sell it for ISK. How is this not pay-to-win?


I'm not talking about using Plex, I'm talking about microtransactions for avatar things.

Plex is a different scenario.


It's basically the same. Whether you're selling a PLEX for ISK or selling some t-shirt for ISK, it's still a pay-to-win scenario.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#158 - 2012-06-15 21:25:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Valerie Tessel
This is excellent news.

I'm guessing this will be in one of the later releases? http://i.imgur.com/L6RVD.jpg

Want to buy Corp Insignia Hologram Pendant / Lapel pin. Probably not a simple thing.

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.
Maul555
Xen Investments
#159 - 2012-06-15 21:27:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Maul555
CCP Unifex wrote:
Onyx Nyx wrote:
Can I have a blood stained lab coat?


Lots of good suggestions in this thread. Keep them coming.



How about some skirts of varying sizes and styles for the ladies? And maybe some less conservative options for up top to go along with it...
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2012-06-15 21:29:48 UTC
Valerie Tessel wrote:
This is excellent news.

I'm guessing this will be in one of the later release? http://i.imgur.com/L6RVD.jpg

Want to buy Corp Insignia Hologram Pendant / Lapel pin. Probably not a simple thing.



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