Player Features and Ideas Discussion

They use ships they won't lose to gate guns, duh. Suicide ganking is for high sec, if you'd ever left high sec you'd know that.

And if your ship existed, they would immediately be suspicious of a mining ship that just sat there inviting a gank instead of mining. Which would give them enough time to assess your disguise and realise what you were up too. Then once your name got out as someone using that ship they either wouldn't bother at all or they would just bring enough gank to blow up your silly decoy ship too.

As for being a developer, I am, but not for EVE =p. That said, new game assets don't just magically fall out of a dev's butthole. They have to be created, programmed, tested, balanced and implimented. Things are rarely simple. Especially here where you're asking for new mechanics that don't exist in the game on top of a new ship. All so the ship can perform one ridiculously specific role in one specific scenario that the vast majority of the player base won't use and those who do will find it taper off in effectiveness neigh immediately once the word gets out.




"People don't agree with me so its obviously a conspiracy".

no, the fact that it is irrelevant makes it irrelevant. I don't give a flying leap if people don't tank their ships or do.. the idea could work in more places than mining.

I get it that there are ways to tank / arm MOST of the industrial ships out there.

I get that there are ways to have friends / corpies standing by (or with in a gate or two) to assist if the need occurs while your doing your industrial what ever.

I also get that changing the current ships and or adding abilities / modules / rigs to then is programing / time intensive for the dev's and would / could take resources from other needs.

That being said, this game is marketed as a "sandbox" and in a "sandbox" if someone wants to upgrade their frigate to be able to fire a BFG (big f*** gun) from it, they should be able to. It might cost they a pretty penny and use all their low and mid slots to have the power and cap to do it, but they should be able to. If they want to hang two 100MWD on an interceptor, they should be able to do it. We are talking about a game that is supposedly, what, 4,000 years into our future? Are you telling me that that far into the future that techs / mechanics / engineers could not figure out how do that kind of stuff?

Ya, i hear the complaints that it would not be balanced blah blah blah. It seems to me that for every ship that had some "UBER" ability, our intrepid player base figured out a way to counter it with what we already had at hand... yes it might have been difficult, but someone always figured out a way to counter that "UBER" what ever. So, "balancing" similar ship types between the races is BS as far as I am concerned. In a "sandbox", you figure out a way.

Who am I? In game, I am an industrialist. I have no interest in PVP. I like collecting resources from asteroid belts, moons and planets. I enjoy moving them to a place to build various modules / items to build bigger stuff and / or sell. Most of that is done as part of a corp, but as a solitary player. It is, for the most part, not a team effort out side of the multiple toons I run on this laptop to get it done. My corpies like pvp and ratting and missioning and such, most don't like mining / collecting resources so much. Hence, I am usually not in the company of defensive back up close by. How ever, as far as this game goes, that is what I like. You may not like that kind of play and that is what makes this game interesting is the variety available to fit just about any ones style of play.

In Real Life, I'm someone who has, maintains, trains with and carries weapons / firearms as well as teaches his family to do the same. I believe in 'walk softly, but carry a big stick'.

So, when I say I think it is 'BULL' that I can not hang a gun/s on my Exhumer or Missles on my Charon or a Scram and a Web on my Rhea, it comes from the fact that humans learn to improvise, adapt and overcome so they can do what they want to do regardless of the reason/s. And in our 'future' we shall be able to do that and more if we choose to.

The current game mechanics do not allow for that yet and I get that. Chastising someone for wanting to do that (improvise, adapt, overcome) just shows that one does not understand the point or just does not care. If and/or when the game mechanics become available to do that (improvise, adapt, overcome), I think we will find that this game is a whole lot more unpredictable, fun and exciting.

How I want to use my what ever ship, should be up to me and how I choose to fit or hang stuff on it should be up to me and not locked into some loose mold because it is particular race of ship and or design. Ever hear of rewiring something to be able to get more power directed somewhere? Ever heard of expanding an engine compartment to put in a bigger one? Ever heard of welding something on to the outside of a what ever to hold more what ever? Ever heard of upgrading your CPU / HD / RAM / POWER SUPPLY to run more and bigger stuff? That is basically what it is that I want to be able to do in this game. Make it cost, make it slower because of the mass until you hang a bigger engine / power plant on it, make it ugly because you have a bunch of Fred Sanford stuff hanging on it. What ever, but let us do it. So what if the ships all look different. It is just a matter of computing power / graphics power / coding power and I want it yesterday like everyone else.

Have a great day and fly safe.

Galmalmin

I think the intended purpose would be better suited to adding a few modules instead of ships. For instance a module that converts 90% of cargo space to hull hp 1 for 1. Of coures change the ration for balancing but the idea is there. Also a module that alters any scan attempted on it. For the most part these are only applicable in high sec though it could be made a perfect trap for say an orca with a cyno in low.

maybe they werent pro enough to know that. All I know is when i returned to see if there was anything left in my cargo containers (some times they leave them), there were several wrecks, 3 of which had the same name as was on my kill board. There were others that warp scrambled my rookie ship, then my pod.



I know little about these types of statagies, because most of my time in low sec has been at the wheel of a freighter or miner. In none of the cases that ive lost ship (several) did I ever see a huge fleet coming in on me. It was always a few destroyers or cruisers, save once when I was attacked by about 8 frigates. Being that I was in a mining frigate at the time, that was infact overkill.

THANKS. You understand what Ive been trying to say.

So basically: you're a dribbling newbie with no idea how lowsec or indeed PVP in general works, so you want the game changed to revolve around you.

The word "no" springs immediately and repeatedly to mind.

Want to be gank resistant in highsec? Use a mining Rokh. EHP in 6 figures with surprisingly high mining yield.
Want to survive lowsec gate camps? Cloaks, agility, scouts and warp stabs are your friends.
Want to survive in general? Get a clue.

None of these problems require a q-ship to solve.

Seeing as I have never generated a single killmail in EVE in my life thus far you're going to have to come to terms with the fact people are disagreeing with you because you have a bad idea and not because of some secret ulterior motive.

If that is in fact the case, its not that big a deal either. I expected people to disagree with it for many reason. Also, just because you personally havent done so (at least not on that account, doesnt necissariy mean its a bad idea, just not one you like.

That i can accept too.




It might be that they can make modules do it easier, but I personally dont see it as necissary to remake a group of ships. Did they have to completely remake all the ships that got t2 and t3 changes? If so, were they that big of a change in programming. IF so, how much difference is it to change the model a little bit to make it work with freighters and miners. They already have the programming needed to make t2 and t3 ships, so why would it take that much more work to add those to miners and frieghters.