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Drone Boats need love
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Flakey Foont
#81 - 2012-06-19 21:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Lask Nardieu wrote:
My fits for the 2 Gallente ship I love flying and I have no problems do any lvl 4.
Some will shout sentry but i like drones and fine how it is.

Dominix Navy Issue
Core C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Explosive Membrane
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Domination 100MN Afterburner
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
350mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x12
Hammerhead II x7

DPS: 541
Drones: 313
Volley 1124


Shocked That's the best you could squeeze out of a Navy Dominix for that kind of cash?
Amarr Haircare Products
Doomheim
#82 - 2012-06-20 06:27:19 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
Drone boats shouldn't be just for pvp...Sad


That's funny. Most people use drone boats for PvE.

Advantages of drone boats:
- EWAR immunity
- Cap-free, High-slot-free damage source
- Dictate range all you want, because it doesn't matter to a drone boat
- Neither does tracking really
- Drones in all damage type versions and even neut/web/EWAR/remote repair versions

Not everything is about raw DPS/EHP ratio.
mama guru
Yazatas.
#83 - 2012-06-20 20:19:38 UTC
Drone boats dont need love. Drones do.


Problem with droneboats is not that they are underpowered its that the drones themselves are shite. Big drones travel at bs MWD speeds and track really badly. Sentries dont orbit you and lights travel faster than they can track.


Drones really need to go the way of fighter bombers and become missile shooters so they can base their damage on signature rather than tracking. All drones need to be traveling the speed of fighters as a bare minumum to stand a real chance of being a viable fleet weapon. Drones need to follow YOU in warp so you dont loose em every time you need to manouver out of a bubble in a fleet battle. Armor tanking droneboats needs alot more lowslots so they can fit their damage mods.

blablabla....


There is about a billion things you can do to fix drones without doubling their dps or something stupid like that, only problem is that CCP couldnt care less and instead wants us to enjoy our new missile effects(which are awesome).


It took CCP like 6 years to add adjustable keybindings for crying out loud and you're wondering why drones are not fixed yet?

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Alara IonStorm
#84 - 2012-06-20 20:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
mama guru wrote:
Big drones travel at bs MWD speeds and track really badly.

Big Drones Track as well as most Frigate Guns. Ogre II 0.36 Tracking. Beserker II .567 Tracking. Put Dual Webs on a Frigate and they will practically instapop them. The thing is speed, they can hit fine they just can't catch there targets useless they are heavy webbed and / or you have Drone Nav Comps. .

That is why Drone Tracking Computers are a Sentry Tool. Scout Drones hit everything they can reach.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-06-20 22:03:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jayrendo Karr
Drones need no ammo, can fire forever, have no falloff(control range), have exactly the amount of tracking needed, can deal all 4 damage types, use no cap/grid/cpu/slots, and are immune to ewar /neuting. Every weapon has advantages and disadvantages, we all gotta suck it up and do the best we can.
Alara IonStorm
#86 - 2012-06-20 22:06:44 UTC
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
have no falloff.

Drones have falloff.
Jayrendo Karr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#87 - 2012-06-20 22:08:37 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Jayrendo Karr wrote:
have no falloff.

Drones have falloff.

i meant control range. Even then a drone will continue to attack a target if you move outside that range.
mama guru
Yazatas.
#88 - 2012-06-21 18:14:57 UTC
Ogres tend to miss plenty on the first few volleys, yes the tracking is good on paper but you have to remember a drones approach pattern, they always overshoot their target and end up trailing behind, and it is only then the hits starts landing.

Missile based damage would be a much better mechanic for drones, similar to fighter bombers.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-06-21 20:29:46 UTC
Drones need a better UI and Amarr and Caldari drones should become viable. If you want a drone fleet, try sentry ishtars or RR Domis.
mama guru
Yazatas.
#90 - 2012-06-24 16:06:46 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
If you want a drone fleet, try sentry ishtars or RR Domis.


These doctrines are **** because sentries dont follow you. Either you or your damage wont move out of position fast enough. I'd love to see sentry domi fleets but to get that we need sentries orbiting you.

EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak.