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Why Has Nothing Changed?
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#21 - 2012-06-14 20:57:42 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
alright. veterans dont really pvp with t1 frigs, in comparison with other ship classes. so my game isnt changing for at least 7 months.


And you expect a top down restructuring of tiers?
Atrocitus Parallax
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-06-14 20:58:53 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
i was away for 6 months only to find that next to nothing has changed. please correct me if im wrong.

- medium rails are still useless
- most of Gallente lineup is still facing the same problems as before
- 10mn Tengu and Drake will be enjoying their status for another 7 months at least
- CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year
- the new mods are mostly useless?

anything else im missing? is FW at least more fun now?



It's kinda a big deal but I came here, meaning 6 months ago I wasn't here, but I am in fact here now. Which, is a fairly substantial thing, aka a big deal.

Honestly though, 6 months is not a long time to a MMO. These machines take 6 months just to get something relevant to happen, and 3 months after that is when the repercussions become well know, 6 months after that new stuff changes it all again.

If I were you I would give me your stuff to keep safe, then you can go away (without worries about said stuff) for another 6 months and come back to see what changed.
Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-06-14 21:04:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Hungry Eyes
i know lots of vets fly t1 frigs. but most vets are in FLEETS!!!

i was at least hoping theyd fix up medium rails, and the Drake. like, the really obviously broken things.
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#24 - 2012-06-14 21:05:01 UTC
Marcus Caspius wrote:
EvE is even more boring;
-- You cant mine in High-Sec: Hulkageddon Infinity
-- You cant mine in Null: afk CLOAKY Faggots
-- PvP is all about Blob-wars for Tech.
-- Missions are still boring - Grind,grind, grind.
-- Wormholes: Hermitville
-- Incursions: Not really a solo thing.
-- Low Sec Piracy: Meh
-- Wardec: Same frustrating bully mechanic with a different face.
-- Solo PvP: Still not an option.


In order:

-- Yes, you can. You just have to be smart about it, and it helps to learn to probe.
-- Yes, you can. You and your friends just have to help each other and all be smart about it. It helps to have a group that's worth a ****, too.
-- Nullsec "PvP" (actually, tacit mutual circle-jerking, but whatev') maybe, elsewhere, not so much
-- Can't argue with that.
-- You say this as if it's a bad thing? Not so.
-- True. And full of elitist entitlement-mentality tw*ts. Best avoided.
-- Yep...That's why I mainly do losec exploration now. After 3+ years, EVE PvP is....kinda boring, to be quite brutally frank.
-- Not correct. Learn how wardecs actually work, but moreover ditch that generic MMO-player assumption that "non-consensual PvP = griefing." It does not, and never has.
-- The general boredom with PvP on my part is why I, again, mainly do exploration now. That said, it still has its moments, and solo PvP is still out there, just a lot harder to find than it used to be.

Fly tight, fit and fly right, obey your FC...But most of all, fly aware at all times. You'll have a lot fewer frustrations, especially if you do carebear stuff.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.
Sara XIII
The Carnifex Corp
#25 - 2012-06-14 21:06:05 UTC
As far as I can tell the Goonswarm Federation officially won EVE at Fanfest. Blink
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#26 - 2012-06-14 21:07:25 UTC
Marcus Caspius wrote:
-- You cant mine in High-Sec: Hulkageddon Infinity

Only if you suck. Learn2EVE.

Marcus Caspius wrote:
-- You cant mine in Null: afk CLOAKY Faggots

Only if you suck. Learn2EVE.
Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
#27 - 2012-06-14 21:11:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Shea Valerien
Xercodo wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:

- CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year
- the new mods are mostly useless?


There's a reason no one cares about them, I can't WAIT for these frig changes, frig swarm sounds like fun with those.

New drone dmg mod is pretty awesome, and the reactive armor hardener is pretty cool, dunno about the lock breaker or the injected boosters tho...


I'm psyched about the new drone frigs and cruisers. Especially if you can fit them with DDAs.

Edit: Totally agree about medium rails, though. They stink.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-06-14 22:05:30 UTC
sniping tormentor?
min-arbi crucifier?
All this is wicked, eff yall
(hopefully ewar frigs get these changes as well)
Nikodiemus
Ganja Clade
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2012-06-14 22:39:49 UTC
I'd rather they try and fail with frigs before they try and fail with cruisers or BS.
Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2012-06-14 22:57:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
Hungry Eyes wrote:
CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year


hit the nail on the head

continuous focus on area of game that minimal percentage of population actually spend time on

its the #1 rule of CCP doctrine

#2 rule is to nerf things that people like "vanguards anyone?"
#3 rule is to ignore the biggest causes of subscriber anger for at least 12 months
#4 rule is to make simple things hard for no reason "PI anyone?"

We are our own worst enemy.
Suqq Madiq
#31 - 2012-06-14 23:12:56 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
- CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year


This is unequivocally NOT true. Nearly every pilot flies frigs on their way up to larger ships, and even then the vast majority continue to fly T1 frigs for various reasons beyond that. Just take a look at Eve-Kill at any given time on any given day and you'll see dozens of T1 frig kills on the first page.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#32 - 2012-06-14 23:19:59 UTC
Trollin wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:
CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year


hit the nail on the head

continuous focus on area of game that minimal percentage of population actually spend time on

its the #1 rule of CCP doctrine

#2 rule is to nerf things that people like "vanguards anyone?"
#3 rule is to ignore the biggest causes of subscriber anger for at least 12 months
#4 rule is to make simple things hard for no reason "PI anyone?"



Nomen est Omen...

You'll have to do better than that... 1/10


On the matter of vets flying T1 frigs: I use lower SP alts for that - I'd love to fly T1 frigs and get blown up in hilarious ways on my higher SP characters, but flying a T1 frig in nullsec whilst spending 45 mill on an empty clone just doesn't make sense. I just hope they finally fix med clonce costs as they said numerous times...
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#33 - 2012-06-15 00:01:43 UTC
Suqq Madiq wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:
- CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year


This is unequivocally NOT true. Nearly every pilot flies frigs on their way up to larger ships, and even then the vast majority continue to fly T1 frigs for various reasons beyond that. Just take a look at Eve-Kill at any given time on any given day and you'll see dozens of T1 frig kills on the first page.

The Rifter is a T1 frig. I think it isn't being changed much though.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#34 - 2012-06-15 00:34:42 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:

- CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year


are we even playing the same game?
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-06-15 00:36:40 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:

- 10mn Tengu and Drake will be enjoying their status for another 7 months at least


I really hate those 10mn tengus man. They fit cruiser sized prop mods so they don't even need those ancillary current routers.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Hungry Eyes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2012-06-15 00:55:29 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:

- CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year


are we even playing the same game?


dont think so. in my game, everyone flies BC's, t1/t2 cruisers, battleships, faction, and caps. an odd person will get into a t2 frig.

you do RvB all day or something bro?
Wilma Lawson
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-06-15 00:56:36 UTC
Entropy.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#38 - 2012-06-15 01:02:10 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Hungry Eyes wrote:

- CCP is focusing on t1 frigs, which no1 flies or cares about, and thats all we can look forward to until next year


are we even playing the same game?


dont think so. in my game, everyone flies BC's, t1/t2 cruisers, battleships, faction, and caps. an odd person will get into a t2 frig.

you do RvB all day or something bro?


You ever hear of TEST?
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2012-06-15 01:37:28 UTC
Hungry Eyes wrote:
iplease correct me if im wrong.


Oddly enough you are almost entirely wrong, who's shocked?

I mean I could go into detail on why you're wrong about each point but there's a word limit on posts, so just know, you're wrong.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Parsee789
Immaterial and Missing Power
#40 - 2012-06-15 01:57:07 UTC
As your SP goes up higher so does your clone costs. It becomes a hassle to fly cheap ships when your clone costs much more than the ships and fittings themselves.
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