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CCP: Are there plans for tablet client?

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wizardd
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-14 11:21:21 UTC
Tablet PC's are getting more powerfull every year. They also get more and more popular all the time, since people notice very fast that mouse and keyboard are actually not necessary tools. Voice communication is faster than typingin, and touch screen is better than using mouse.

Tablets are the future of gaming, and desktop PC's are dying species. Even laptops will suffer alot.

Right now tablets can do basically everything. You can do office work with them, you could basically do programming with them, you can use web applications via browser. You can talk with your friends with phone, or skype etc. You can use 3g, WIFI. We are closing at the point where the scifi PDA thingy is real.

Playing EVE with tablet is possible. Of course it would only run one client, atleast as first. But the touch screen is actually better than using mouse. Even I adapted touch screen use very fast, under two days.

Double click is replaced by double tap (IIRC), wiping screen would move your vision. Wipe horizontally, move vision horizontally, wipe vertically, move vision vertically. Zooming is also possible.

Largets problem is the GUI. However new unified inventory system is one huge leap towards tablet client for EVE.

I really do believe that it would be possible, and I do hope that it will be reality in someday.

CCP, are there any plans to make EVE compatible with tablets?
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-06-14 11:25:35 UTC
wizardd wrote:
touch screen is better than using mouse.


My working man's hands+my iPhone says No.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.

Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-06-14 11:25:48 UTC
wizardd wrote:

Tablets are the future of gaming, and desktop PC's are dying species.


Roll
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2012-06-14 11:25:49 UTC
Don't think tablets have quite caught up with EVE just yet.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#5 - 2012-06-14 11:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Nirnias Stirrum
Mouse = precision click,

Fat finger = press general area,

Cant see touch screens being implemented for games at all.

If anything were to be implemented it would be body movement or voice commands. And even they are still really badly done.

imo touch screen would be much slower, you move your entire arm to whatever part of the screen you want, where as with the mouse you can get there without even moving your wrist.

Trying to imagine a fleet of 50 people all using touch screen in a fleet fight. Id put my iskies on the guys they are fighting.

Touch screen is a "fad" that is all.
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-06-14 11:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Pertuabo Enkidgan
wizardd wrote:
But the touch screen is actually better than using mouse.


you'll get your mainstream tablet gaming when you rob desktop pc's out of my cold dead hands. even so we're talking decades.(scratch that last part, it's not going to happen)

the bolded part is absolute nonsense. all these ''tablets, touchpads'' and whatnot is based on old technology, which we are paying for some reason full price for, and people are buying right into it.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-06-14 11:31:11 UTC
You might want to look at this EVE-Online on a Tablet
Gonada
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-06-14 11:39:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Gonada
Tor Gungnir wrote:
wizardd wrote:
touch screen is better than using mouse.


My working man's hands+my iPhone says No.


I play eve sometimes at work remote desktoping my comp at home.

Tablet, not iPhone, you see the differance?

You can do everything on a tablet that you can do on a computer specially if its not an apple product.

E-prime transformer 32gig tablet with 32 gig SD card works well
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-06-14 11:41:55 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
You might want to look at this EVE-Online on a Tablet


That wasn't EVE online.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#10 - 2012-06-14 11:44:20 UTC
Gonada wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
wizardd wrote:
touch screen is better than using mouse.


My working man's hands+my iPhone says No.


I play eve sometimes at work remote desktoping my comp at home.

Tablet, not iPhone, you see the differance?

You can do everything on a tablet that you can do on a computer specially if its not an apple product.

E-prime transformer 32gig tablet with 32 gig SD card works well



You cant play Eve Online.......

I bet there is many other things it cant do.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-06-14 11:45:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
Gonada wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
wizardd wrote:
touch screen is better than using mouse.


My working man's hands+my iPhone says No.


I play eve sometimes at work remote desktoping my comp at home.

Tablet, not iPhone, you see the differance?

You can do everything on a tablet that you can do on a computer specially if its not an apple product.

E-prime transformer 32gig tablet with 32 gig SD card works well


I can barely write text messages on this damn thing (my boss is probably laughing at me and my co-workers) and you expect me to be able to pick out targets from the overview with my finger? Or click them in space? Ridiculous!

Touch screens, no mater the product size, aren't precise enough.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.

Gonada
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-06-14 11:46:16 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
You might want to look at this EVE-Online on a Tablet


That wasn't EVE online.


The ccp employees, the ships, the fitting screen suggests they might be looking into it
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-06-14 11:47:04 UTC
wizardd wrote:
Tablets are the future of gaming

No, it really isn't.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-06-14 11:47:05 UTC
Gonada wrote:

You can do everything on a tablet


please stop exaggerating.
Kaahles
Jion Keanturi
#15 - 2012-06-14 11:47:18 UTC
Touchscreens better than keyboard? I don't think so. Ever tried writing a long text or do some actual coding work with an on-screen keyboard on a tochscreen? No? Try it, it's not really fun. There is nothing whatsoever when doing this kind of work that is in any shape or form superior to a good keyboard, especially mechanical switch keyboards.

Touchscreens better than a mouse? I don't think so either. Due to the fact of how touchscreens actually work and the fact that everybody has different finger sizes it's very unlikely that you will achieve the same precision with a touchscreen compared to a good 2000 (or maybe even more) DPI laser mouse (which perform pretty awesome on almost any surface except maybe glass).

Mobile gaming, especially on tablets sure as hell has some bright and interesting future ahead however it will never be able to replace desktop gaming machines. Hell every decent desktop is superior to any notebook/laptop in many ways no matter how awesome it's hardware is. There are a number of reasons for that but I won't go into it.

As for a tablet client for EVE. That would actually be kind of a nice idea. If you look at what they are planning with Dust 514 and the CREST API they created for interfacing it with EVE that same technology can then be used to create a tablet client that let's you perform certain actions within the game. Hell maybe even at a later point you'll be able to run a full client of the game on it (somewhere in the distant future). CCP is crazy enough to be the first company that actually pulls something like this off.
With EVE as it is the only real problem with making this possible is the available tablet hardware performance available at the moment and the fact that the UI is not all the time as good to use with a touchscreen, especially if you have fat fingers.

Nobody is ever gonna read this entire post probably because it's way too long a response for such an obvious troll but in case you did actually read this here is a little troll of myself towards the OP as a bonus: Written with a mechanical switch keyboard with approximately 180 key-hits/minute. Try doing this on a touchscreen, I dare you ***(get's censored anyway :P), I double dare you!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-06-14 11:48:43 UTC
Gonada wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
You might want to look at this EVE-Online on a Tablet


That wasn't EVE online.


The ccp employees, the ships, the fitting screen suggests they might be looking into it


That was nothing more than a fitting screen and ship models. It was not the whole game, not even close.
Gonada
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-06-14 11:51:10 UTC
Kaahles wrote:
Touchscreens better than keyboard? I don't think so. Ever tried writing a long text or do some actual coding work with an on-screen keyboard on a tochscreen? No? Try it, it's not really fun. There is nothing whatsoever when doing this kind of work that is in any shape or form superior to a good keyboard, especially mechanical switch keyboards.

Touchscreens better than a mouse? I don't think so either. Due to the fact of how touchscreens actually work and the fact that everybody has different finger sizes it's very unlikely that you will achieve the same precision with a touchscreen compared to a good 2000 (or maybe even more) DPI laser mouse (which perform pretty awesome on almost any surface except maybe glass).

Mobile gaming, especially on tablets sure as hell has some bright and interesting future ahead however it will never be able to replace desktop gaming machines. Hell every decent desktop is superior to any notebook/laptop in many ways no matter how awesome it's hardware is. There are a number of reasons for that but I won't go into it.

As for a tablet client for EVE. That would actually be kind of a nice idea. If you look at what they are planning with Dust 514 and the CREST API they created for interfacing it with EVE that same technology can then be used to create a tablet client that let's you perform certain actions within the game. Hell maybe even at a later point you'll be able to run a full client of the game on it (somewhere in the distant future). CCP is crazy enough to be the first company that actually pulls something like this off.
With EVE as it is the only real problem with making this possible is the available tablet hardware performance available at the moment and the fact that the UI is not all the time as good to use with a touchscreen, especially if you have fat fingers.

Nobody is ever gonna read this entire post probably because it's way too long a response for such an obvious troll but in case you did actually read this here is a little troll of myself towards the OP as a bonus: Written with a mechanical switch keyboard with approximately 180 key-hits/minute. Try doing this on a touchscreen, I dare you ***(get's censored anyway :P), I double dare you!


I read your post
op asking if work being done to have a tablet client not replace desktop gaming.
Relax:)
Gonada
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-06-14 11:55:22 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Spitfire
Please keep it civil and refrain from personal attacks. Spitfire
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-06-14 11:58:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
baltec1 wrote:
Gonada wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
You might want to look at this EVE-Online on a Tablet


That wasn't EVE online.


The ccp employees, the ships, the fitting screen suggests they might be looking into it


That was nothing more than a fitting screen and ship models. It was not the whole game, not even close.


The OP asked if EVE-Online would ever be on a tablet and if they were working on it.
I provided an answer as to the current status and what CCP was looking to do (well as of last year)
I never claimed it was the entire client I just stated the OP should look at it.

People can draw there own conclusions about the current status and the odds of seeing a complete client from there.
Unless we get an update from CCP, I at least provided more information then anyone else so far in this thread.
wizardd
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-06-14 12:38:26 UTC  |  Edited by: wizardd
Gonada wrote:


I read your post
op asking if work being done to have a tablet client not replace desktop gaming.
Relax:)
Exactly

It´s perfectly natural that humans fear changes. But not everyone. History has shown that technology evolves and there isn´t anyreason why PC should stay in form of desktop.

I predict that laptops will be gone before desktops, and replaced by portable devices. After that desktops.

Also I predict that Microsoft and Windows will be gone very soon.

Linux is hitting portable devices too, for example Ubuntu.

Android is growing very fast, and getting lot´s of office work related tools and software.

I must be honest with you guys, I was seriously surprised how handy tablet actually is. Some of my friends, that don´t play games have only smartphone and tablet. They use tablet as their computer, and smartphone as their phone.

Android might be the breakthrough for gaming industry to get rid of Windows.
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